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Why a conscientious Christian could not vote for the Greens : Comments

By Bill Muehlenberg, published 18/8/2010

The Greens are a party fundamentally at odds with basic Christian values and concerns.

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"Moreover, it does very little good to carry on and on about social justice when we kill 100,000 unborn babies each year. Where is their justice?"

WHO kills 100,000 unborn babies? What happens is the abortion of fetuses which are non-viable and far less developed than, say, the lamb whose chops you happily eat for dinner. If abortion is killing -- really genuine killing, not just a religious no-no -- then the slaughter of lambs, cattle, pigs and chickens is wholesale genocide. But I don't see many Catholics holding back from meat, or protesting outside abattoirs.

Yes, abortion is regrettable. Yes, it should be avoided if possible -- preferably by spreading sex education and making contraception readily available without shame. But let's drop the 'killing babies' thing, shall we? It only makes you look ridiculous.
Posted by Jon J, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 2:58:30 PM
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I’m a Christian and will not be voting Green, but I disagree with this article.

There are many ways of interpreting political policies that could in good faith lead thoughtful people with different worldviews to contradictory views on what a Christian political agenda might look like.

Even if we could work out what a Christian Agenda would look like, probably no current party would be completely aligned with that agenda nor completely outside it - so Christians’ choice of party depends on matters of weight and degree, not a black-and-white choice.

The author has cherry-picked Green issues which he perceives to be hostile to a Christian agenda and ignores issues such as refugees where the Greens are arguably closer to a Christian perspective than the major parties.

By all means we can discuss why our faith inclines us to vote in a particular direction, but to deny the legitimacy of different opinions and perspectives is bigoted and coercive, whether done by left-wing or right-wing Christians.
Posted by Rhian, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 3:29:23 PM
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any honest person knows killing the unborn is murder. To kill babies at nine months as Emily's list advocates is rotten to the core. Any one claiming to be a believer in Christ who can't see that is totally blind to right and wrong. Usually they then take up some self righteous cause like to environment to mask their self righteousness. Human life is very cheap for those swallowing the humanistic faith of secularism.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 3:59:19 PM
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Sorry, Runner -- most abortions take place before three months. Are those also 'murder', and if not, why not? When exactly does it become 'murder'? Are you going to be daft enough to go along with the Catholic doctrine and claim that killing a blastocyst of eight cells is still 'murder'? Because everything that blastocyst can do -- and much more -- can be done by the healthy cells mixed in with the skin cancer which gets frozen off by your doctor. Is it murder to get that treated? In a few years we will be able to create a complete new human from any cell of your skin; will it then become 'murder' to prick a blister or scratch a scab?

By adopting an unreal view based on religious faith rather than science you are only harming your real case.
Posted by Jon J, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 4:15:04 PM
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If the Greens are fair-minded, tolerant, anti-racist, pro-religion, community-minded, pro-humanlife, pro-education, socially-just, unselfish, charitable and equitable, why are their supporters being so hostile to the author?
Posted by Raycom, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 4:37:28 PM
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As one is viewing this from across the ocean I can only comment
as to to how it compares to the leftist, liberal, progressive
agenda here in the states.

The green party is out to destroy the same thting the left
wants to do in the states and it is through the three toxic
stews of western society is how this takes place: Political correctness, Diversity and Multiculturalism. These have gotten
buried into the fabric of politics, education, the legal
system, the environment and economy. These three toxins have
more responsible for the degradation of the west. That the
greens can be equated with Christianity as I know it and the author here has explained quite well, just does not work. The parallels to what the demosocialistacrats have done here in the states is a sad commentary on the cheapness of life(abortion), embracing diversity at the cost of western freedom(islam and sharia law),rabid environmentalism to the point of costing jobs and increasing
costs to all of us in the name of 'green energy' based on
expensive, altrenate technologies and fuels(ethanol here),
if I lived in Australia there is no way as a Christian man
I could vote for such a party as the green party.

I have witnessed first hand the wreckage such a liberal
agenda can cause over the years here in my home state of
Oregon. It is the most 'progressive, regressive' state in
the USA. While you may not agree with the author's views
or opinions(I do!!) you can at least accord him respect in
your comments. Almost all the Christians I know here
stateside behave in a proper manner and rarely stoop to
the level that the left has lowered themselves to.
Posted by PatriotUSA, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 4:42:00 PM
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