"Nor should we forget that the Greens leader, the secularist homosexual Bob Brown, proudly co-authored a book with Peter Singer on Green beliefs and values. So he certainly shares with Singer in these ungodly and appalling beliefs. Yet somehow we are supposed to embrace him and his party as the epitome of Christian conviction."

Please crawl back into the gutter you came from.

Manorina, perhaps you could give me an example of something more important than the value of human life.
There is something seriously wrong with a political party which advocates for a mother killing her unborn child. I'm sorry that you don't see it that way.
Of course Bill is correct in describing the Australian Greens as a radical anti-christian organisation. These are the people that want to eliminate school chaplaincy, eliminate religious education in schools, and remove any reference to God in parliament. Not only do they advocate abortion in our own country but they want to promote abortion overseas via overseas aid funding.
So much for the Greens being a Christian political party.

"Why save trees, if there are no people to benefit from the clean air?"
Liz Unch, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 10:36:23 AM

Really? The Greens policies are going to extinguish people? Totally?

That is really going to happen if people vote Green? Is it going to take 100? or 1,002?

Now we know why appealing to the Christian vote is futile - their pseudo-arguments and reasoning are!

This article reminds me of the dull phrases and
stale ideas engraved since childhood, the
archaic vocabulary, the abuse of others, the
rehasing of personal obsessions - all of this
is supposed to prepare the people for the
banquet of Christ.

A decade ago we could, perhaps, endure the
impoverished preaching such as this. We were
wrapped more carefully in our parochial ghetto.
We were taught to carry home whatever little
defective pearl was offered and to overlook
the irrelevance. But today, we no longer have
to listen the long harangues of vehemence.

The world has become meaning-centered, and the
individual measures the traditional truths in
terms of personal value. People refuse to accept
irrelevant sermons, they won't be bullied by
authoritarian demand, nor moralizing which ignores
the true and complex context of modern life.

By all means don't vote for a Party that wants to
reduce pollution, save the climate, increase our
quality of life. A Party that's concerned about
the adverse impacts of climate change, food security
for the poor, water security for all, the continuing
loss of biodiversity, and the ongoing threat of
environmental diseases.

Lets not divert our energy and resources to the real
problems that face us, including poverty, disease,
overpopulation, injustice, oppression, and the
devastation of our natural environment.

Instead, let's preach hatred against people who happen
to be different to us, let's not do
unto others as we would have them do to us - and then
let's call ourselves Christians!

Congratulations McReal, Manorina, Ozandy, and Daviy - you have successfully demonstrated that you are not in the set of people this article was addressing - i.e. "Biblical Christians" (as identified by the author). So why exactly do you feel the need to vehemently react?

e.g. Daviy :

"Please crawl back into the gutter you came from."

Profound insight - ah, were you actually making a point?

McReal - if you knew the Bible well enough, you'd know that the only floods, massacres and stonings that God promoted in the Bible were deaths that prevented future deaths, spiritual and physical.

In contrast, human blood spilled for mere human convenience is needless death.

Granted, you don't believe in spirituality nor spiritual deaths, but once again, that means you were not addressed in this article. Your comments are not relevant to those who _were_ addressed in this article, because you have faith in the exclusive existence of matter and the non-existence of super-material realities.

Likewise, Ozandy's ignorant assertion that the unborn child is mere cells and nothing more, simply proves that he too has faith in the non-existence of anything non-physical. So why's his nappy in a knot? He ain't being addressed in this article.

Oh - and Ozandy, you might be interested in knowing that sex crimes are committed by public school teachers far more often than by clergy :

http://www.duhmag.com/Commentary/guvtskoolshavemoremolesters.html

Far more often _per capita_, not just in absolute terms.

So this suggests to me in fact that the religious views and practices of the clergy are actually helping them to some extent.

McReal is most amusing of all commenters - "this superficial puff piece is immoral and unethical".

By what standard? Are you imposing your standard of morality on this article? Bill appeals to a group who believe in absolute moral standards. You mock that, but then present absolute moral standards of your own! "Hypocrite" might apply.

Refugees etc are real issues, and Christians must form a Biblical perspective on these issues (and many have), but the Bible presents the shedding of innocent blood as bringing a curse on a nation far worse than that of mistreating foreigners.

So to get our priorities straight, supporting policies that protect life - something the Greens are against - is very relevant to Biblical Christians.

And if you ain't one of them, spare your breath - the article wasn't written for you.