Dear mikk,

Animals can consent. Consent does not have to be verbal even in humans. Animals can let you know whether or not they want to do something.

David,

Are you really suggesting that animals may consent to intercourse or other 'interactions' with humans?

I suppose it is possible, though I can't imagine it. When I was a kid, I once saw a rabbit giving a guinea pig a good go. The guinea pig's behaviour didn't really indicate consent. I will accept your point and certainly agree that it is a possibility, but in practice I think it is unlikely to happen all too often.

Dear Otokonoko,

We feed possums that come in our back yard at night. A couple of nights one of the creatures put its head forward and rubbed noses with my wife. That was definitely a gesture of affection.

I have engaged in sexual relations during my life. I have never forced anyone and have never had to have verbal consent. You know if another human wants it without getting verbal consent.

I imagine it's the same thing with a member of another species although I have not had the experience.

Richie you nailed it with your "mind set in concrete" comment.

Humans were not around 1,000,000,000 years ago.
Your maths and logic are awful. You dont even allow that people die ffs. The bible has long been proven to be extremely inconsistent and inaccurate. Even the churches admit it. Why dont you?
I suggest you inquire a bit more and stop embarrassing yourself.

davidf
I disagree. The only way an animal could be seen as consenting is if they didnt bite the person shagging them. They can hardly give "informed" consent can they. Even if they did willingly accept it (as dogs on heat would) they could only be seen as enslaved to their hormones and instinct not consenting. Is that really where we want to go? I still see it as exploiting an animal for your own sexual gratification and cant accept that in a sexual situation an animal could give consent. Arent we better than animals? We dont allow or base instincts and hormones to control us. At least we shouldnt. i see no possible need or justification for bestiality except cheap thrills, mental illness or just uncaring deviance. People who do such things would worry me greatly. How far will they go to pleasure themselves and in their uncaring and selfish attitude they are likely to do anything to satisfy their perversions.

Dear mikk,

I won't argue but will cite a couple of instances from mythology. Zeus in the form of a bull got it on with Europa. She gave birth to Minos and Rhadamanthus. In the form of a swan he also got it on with Leda who gave birth to Castor and Pollux. In Christian mythology the Holy Ghost got it on with Mary who gave birth to Jesus. As far as I know, unlike a bull and a swan, the Holy Ghost wasn't even a vertebrate. That was farther out than bestiality. Real perving.

Come on David, you're baiting now. Zeus assumed the forms of various animals and had sex with women. If the Holy Spirit had had sex with Mary, she wouldn't have been a virgin.