i have/no idea..what..your 2de-quote/..was for
i presumed..it to/be..another/attempt at vali-dating..jesus..as jew/judean

anyhow..thats the/joke..they played..on..jesus
calling him;..king of the yudeans[judeans]..
for he was/not even..[ever]..judean

he was born,.,.[others could/explain it/better]..but from galelee
not judea..

but then judea..couldnt..have-been judea..either

[no j..in..[he-brew]..nor in aramaic..as previously posted]

but lets go-to your/first...quote
[note the/date]

<<..Jew:..Late..12c.>>
likely..from the LATE/1200's

<<(in plural,..giwis),>>>not jews

<<from Anglo-Fr...iuw,>>>not jew

<<from O.Fr...giu>>>not jew

<<from L...Judaeum>>
maybe...but then again
here is/the lie..not NO..'J'..

<<latin..(nom. Judaeus),>>comes..from..<<from Gk...Ioudaios,>>ie no j

it claims..decent/..<<from Aramaic..jehudhai..>>
BUT AS PREVIOUSLY/posted..aremaic..HAS NO J

yet next we have hebrew,...ALSO not having...a..'J'..
[nor any vowels...<<(Heb. y'hudi)..

then knowing the sheple are asleep/by now..slip-in..
<<"Jew,"..from Y'hudah.."Judah,">>..
note the clever braketing/use of jew/judeah...where NO J EGSISTED

to wit..Y'hd...[ie no vowekls..remember...lol
how easy to forget

then further destraction
having deliverd..the y braketed by two..'j's..lol

ydh..called...<<it..."celebrated,"..name of Jacob's fourth son>>>now we KNOW..it COULDNT..have-been j..so maybe..Yacob..could be true
BUT WHERE DO THE LIES/deceptions..distortions/spin...end?

YACOB..<<and of the tribe descended from him.>>>
died/out
replaced..by the northern-jews
who invented..yiddish

<<Replaced O.E...Iudeas.."the Jews.">>

YEWS...lol

<<Originally,.."Hebrew/of..the kingdom of Judah.">>
YUDAH?

so even the scientific...texts/book..<<-Etymology/Dictionary.<>>has been got-at...[peverted]..[subverted]..into serving the deceptive adgenda

ps...i love yesus..
.despite all the deciets..woven..arround..him
by the self-same deciet.../decievers,..that killed/him

those..who claim..he died..for our sins
how much of a guilt-trip..is that

think..oliver
i died..for you to be allowed..to sin..as much as you/like

its simply insane..then i hear..you drink/my blood..hang..my mortal/flesh..goyam..in your chapple....costing billions..

while..[meto-phoric..ly]..of course

while you pervert/childrens..innocence..
take..from them ..our fathers..miraculous..creation's

while you..let the poor/starve..
while..you allows..ursury..upon the oppressed/poor
while you lord..it up with the elites...by our deeds will we be known

religion..should/deal with..the matters..of spirit
not the flesh..

except..to make those..who own-it/all..
realise..we are/all..enjoined.heirs..of the fathers bounty

that..which..they do/did..to the least
they do/did..to him

it makes me angry..that the prince/of peace
should be used to justify..war

that those..who claim..to be his
proove..by their ignorances..they arnt..all they make claim to be

hell is full/of em..[sadly]
because even in hell..
god yet sustains..them their living

still is enthroned..in the heart/sustaining them their living
so we condem..god to hell..

and he deserves..so much better
as yesus..came here to reveal

bah...keep the love
god has experienced/lived..enough pain

Dear David,

Thanks.

I am quite happy with this century. Being born about now would be good.

My quip was about old spelling styles and my poor typing, relating to the cut and paste from the OED.

I certainly would like to visit the first century Rome, were it possible. Again, were it possible, I would like to see the future, when hopefully the advances bio and nano technologies will be significant.

How remarkable to have great grandfather who lived so long. Many world leaders would have come and gone. Ninety-nine years is best I can manage from my great grand generation.

In the Australian when your great grandfather was a boy news, would have taken months to travel to distant outposts like Australia.

OUG,

One lunch time, I went with a friend to a specialist bookshop which sold books in OE a nd ME. He read aloud a few sentences to me. Of course, I barely under stand it. Maybe not at all, with OE. The word Jew and most words will have an earlier root. In this way, I don't understand the point your referencing is making?

There have been several horrible purges of the Jews thoughout he centuries. Not over their uncivil behaviour, rather to clear debt owed by monarchs. The Christian Templars are said to have met a similar fate at the hands of the Pope. Despite, their fate, the Jews and Templars helped commerce greatly, because they supported resource networks, so traders didn't have to carry bullion. The same principal applies to Bank Nostro and Vostro accounts, today regarding international trade. We are endebted (not by way of the pun) to these people.

oliver...most..of the-people..i know/are..jewish
its not..as/if..we dont/owe..them..a lot

but by/the..same token..its not as/if..they dont..owe/us..more
see..that/..to whom-much..was given..
directly..applies to/them

i use/them..rather..loosly,..because in/fact..
there is no..them...as such...only...us

those..who/make claim..to be gods/people..
are delusioning..in their own..grandeure/deceptions

who/living..does-not..belong..to god
what life..is not/sustained...by god
all living..owes..its-living..to him

we are all...his*..people
wether..they/or us..or you..or them..
believe-it..or not

my first..awakenings..was via/the..so-called..hitler-arian..genocide..of those..called..jews

can you imagine..my horror..to learn/of the genocide..of 25/million...x-tians..never talked-of..on the death-marches..
by*..the bolchovic-jews

or..the horor...of what/they are doing..in israel
to their own..family-members..of abraham/ic-family

or should-we..overlook..the native-jews..they exiled..from their homeland..when..the brits..handed..their homeland..to the northern[faux]..dues..with/the zion-star..imagry..[not the..candel-stick]

there is..so much/deception..it cant be/by chance
you will hear/loud deneyals..of the elders/of zion-document
yet see/it..in action..every news hour..

they are/just..so expert..at doing as/they chose..
while looking..so reasonable..[innocent]..doing the most/vile
like..carpet/bombing palistinians..with clusterbombs..white/sulpher

we cant..turn-on..tv..without..seeing..a brown-eyed..long nosed..announcer/entertainer/host..pattering..the latest destraction...amusement/for the..masses

and that/is..fine

there is no/doudt..we would be much poorer[intelectually-speaking]..
without their domination..of the patent-system..or their political/justice/medical/business/media..systems

and again..im fine/with-that

just imagine..how things would progress..
if that..they do/did..for their own...
they did for all..[are we/not..all children..of god

and this is/what jesus..came to say..to them
they know..feeding 4000/5000..is no big-deal..

if the hand-washing/ritual..
forbids..eating..with unclean-hands

they know..even the..best-wine...out of a..toilet..
is yet unclean..[unkosher]

for me/to blame..them..or anyone..for problems
is to deney..gods/good..to ignore..gods blessings
is the only..truth

and so their..bias..ego/favouritism/lies/excuses..goes-on

and thats fine
the last/thing we need..
is yet more vile/war.bias/fear/hate

yet more././name-calling

just dont/be quoting histry..
because its mostly propaganda

created..by the winner..and the winner..is
not god..
not good...

but then..this isnt/the realm...of good

his-story..is every/bit as biased..to build..godheads..
serfs/slaves..who dont know
and masters..who do/know

[even if/only their narrow/speciality]

and the greedy/obsessive/perverse..and worse

like that north-korean..dictator...kim/hell-soon
or..the oil-men..of nigeria...

[heck..open/eyes..make your/own list]

the scum..allways floats..to the top..
till it..sinks..into the darkness

but there can be..no joy..in this..
because god is there..too
even then/..still sustaining them..their very lives
allowing..them..free-choice..what to/do with-it

those who/claim..to be his people
should/have told-us all/
of his truth..long-ago

all/loving
all/living
all/forgiving
all/grace
all/mercy

not..to bind..but..to free

not to decieve..but inform
not self-advantage

but e-quality/..equally..for all

for the one
not just some

Oliver,
I would go along with George regarding that period that is often referred to as the Dark Ages. As I’ve said in other contexts, arguments get a lot of mileage simply from naming the terms. I don’t think the Enlightenment was terribly well named, as I think it is contentious to say that that is when the lights went on. I suspect it was those of the Enlightenment who gave name to the Dark Ages in order to make themselves appear more luminous.

This period between 500 and 1500 saw the invention of water and wind power, spectacles, magnificent architecture, the blaze furnace, the compass, paper, printing, stirrups, and gunpowder. One ought to give credit to the inventiveness and mechanical ingenuity developed in the monasteries as well as the medieval Scholastic philosophers. Perhaps we can retrace a steady progress in scientific advancement rather than seeing large peaks and troughs.

What you say about tentativeness isn’t clear. You say that theories are tentative, and so none are ‘best’. But if they are tentative, then why say that Big Bang has won over Solid State after the discovery of uniform background radiation? To what extent did it tentatively win?

I wouldn’t be too confident about Big Bang theory. It is just one competing view, whose current popularity may soon fade. http://cosmologystatement.org/

How old is the universe? The creationist view is that the universe is around 6000 years old. Various theories have been proposed as to how distant stars are to be seen. The popular ones involve time dilation related to General Relativity. It’s mostly over my head, so to speak, or above my ability to explain. I do know that God said that he put the stars there so that we could see them and they would give him glory. So if we could only see those stars which were less than 6,000 light years away, the display would be pretty unimpressive to credit the omnipotent one. Here’s what others have said:

‘The background radiation temperature is almost uniform, to one part in 100,000, at about 2.725 K, even when we look in the opposite directions of the cosmos. Since the big bang would predict hugely different temperatures, how did they become so even? Only if energy was transferred from hot parts to cold parts. However, there hasn’t been nearly enough time for this to occur even in the assumed time since the alleged big bang.

‘The big bang requires that opposite regions of the visible universe must have exchanged energy by radiation, since these regions of space look the same in CMB maps. But there has not been enough time for light to travel this distance. Both biblical creationists and big bang supporters have proposed a variety of possible solutions to light-travel–time difficulties in their respective models. So big-bangers should not criticize creationists for hypothesizing potential solutions, since they do the same thing with their own model. The horizon problem remains a serious difficulty for big bang supporters.

Dan wrote: “This period between 500 and 1500 saw the invention of water and wind power, spectacles, magnificent architecture, the blaze furnace, the compass, paper, printing, stirrups, and gunpowder. One ought to give credit to the inventiveness and mechanical ingenuity developed in the monasteries as well as the medieval Scholastic philosophers. Perhaps we can retrace a steady progress in scientific advancement rather than seeing large peaks and troughs.”

Hello again, Dan. Spectacles were invented in 13th century Italy. However, none of the other inventions mentioned were a product of the Dark Ages.

Early uses of waterpower date back to Mesopotamia and ancient Egypt, where irrigation has been used since the 6th millennium BC and water clocks had been used since the early 2nd millennium BC. Other early examples of water power include the Qanat system in ancient Persia and the Turpan water system in ancient China.

Humans have been using wind power for at least 5,500 years to propel sailboats and sailing ships, and architects have used wind-driven natural ventilation in buildings since similarly ancient times.

Windmills have been used for irrigation pumping and for milling grain since the 7th century AD in what is now Afghanistan, Iran and Pakistan.

The compass was invented in ancient China sometime before the 2nd century, and was used for navigation by the 11th century.

Paper and printing were both inventing in China. Paper was invented by Cai Lun in 105 AD, which was one of the four great inventions by the Chinese. Cai Lun not only greatly improved the papermaking technique, but also made it possible to use a variety of materials, such as tree bark, hemp, rags, etc. The earliest paper discovered in Fufeng County, Shaanxi, was made from hemp during the Western Han (206 BC - 24 AD).

The earliest stirrup was used in India, possibly as early as 500 BC.

Tang Dynasty Chinese alchemists invented gunpowder around 850 AD.

Chinese invented the blast (not blaze) furnace about 200 BC.

The pyramids, colosseum, Parthenon and other magnificent architecture were created in the ancient world.