JWs refer to Christiandom as excluding themselves. Like some other fundamentalist sects they speak of themselves as 'becoming a Christian' when they joined the sect even though they were Christians before.

just a a/small..correction/oliver

quoted/from
http://www.savethemales.ca/jesus_was_not_a_jew_--benjamin.html

Jesus referred/to Himself..as/a."Judean"..
and not..as/a.."Jew".

...Except for His/few..followers at that/time.in Judea,..
all other Judeans/abhorred..Jesus/and detested His/teachings..
and the-things..for/which..He stood.

At the time/of..the Crucifixion/of..Jesus
Pontius/Pilate..was the administrator/..in Judea..for the Roman Empire...

As/far-as..he/was..concerned officially/or personally,..the inhabitants of Judea..were.."Judeans"..and not..so-called.."Jews"..as they..have/been..styled..since the/..18th century.

In the time/of..Pontius Pilate,..there was no/religious,..racial or national=group..in Judea/known-as.."Jews"..

nor had/there..been any group so/identified..
anywhere-else..in the world/prior to that..time.

Pontius Pilate expressed..little interest/in the wide-variety..of forms/of..religious worship..then practiced..in Judea.

As I/have..explained,..when the word.."Jew"..was first/introduced into..the English-language..in the 18th century,..its one/and..only implication,inference/and innuendo..was.."Judean".

However during the 18th,19th/and 20th..centuries..a well-organized and/well- financed..international.."pressure group"..created..a so-called.."secondary/meaning"..for the-word.."Jew"..among/the..English- speaking/peoples..of the world.

This so-called.."secondary meaning"..for the word.."Jew"..bears no relation/whatsoever..to the 18th/century..original/connotation..of/the word.."Jew".

It is/a misrepresentation.

The/United-States..Supreme-Court..has recognized/the.."secondary meaning"..of words...The highest/court..in the-land..has established as basic law...that.."secondary meanings"..can acquire/priority-rights..to the use/of..any dictionary word.

Well-planned..and well-financed..world-wide/publicity
through every available/media..by well-organized-groups..of so-called or/self-styled.."Jews"..for three/centuries..has created a.."secondary/meaning"..for the word.."Jew"..which has completely "blacked out"/the original..and correct/meaning..of the word.."Jew".

There can be..no/doubt..about that.

There is/not a person..in the whole/English-speaking/world..today who regards a.."Jew"..as a.."Judean"..in/the..literal sense..of the word.

That/was..the correct..and only meaning..in the 18th century.

Christians..are becoming/more..and more..aware..day by day
of all..the economic and political-advantages/accruing..to..the so-called..or self-styled.."Jews"

as/a direct-result..of their success/in making..Christians believe that.."Jesus was/a Jew"..in the.."secondary meaning"

The so-called/or self-styled.."Jews"..seek/to thereby..prove their kinship..with Jesus.

They emphasize/this fiction..to Christians constantly.

That fable..is fast fading..and losing..its former grip/upon..the imaginations of..many/Christians...

end/quote

the truth...can set you/free

dont/be fooled/by lables
by/their deeds..will we know/them

see/what..the holy-land..looks-like
gods/beloved-city..made into hell?

no war-maker..can serve..the prince-of/peace
dont/be fooled/decieved..by..a wolf..in a sheeps/skin/clothing

OUG

FYI:

Jew: Late 12c. (in plural, giwis), from Anglo-Fr. iuw, from O.Fr. giu, from L. Judaeum (nom. Judaeus), from Gk. Ioudaios, from Aramaic jehudhai (Heb. y'hudi) "Jew," from Y'hudah "Judah," it. "celebrated," name of Jacob's fourth son and of the tribe descended from him. Replaced O.E. Iudeas "the Jews." Originally, "Hebrew of the kingdom of Judah." - Etymology Dictionary.

One could double check in the unabridged OED but I suspect it will say much the same.

I think it is safe to say Jesus was a Jew.

The Romans respected the Jewish religion's qreat antiquity yet disproved of the exclusivity of monotheism. An issue of Jews of Jesus' time would have been unclean Roman polytheists offering gifts to Yehwah in the Temple.

Of the early Jews, Pilate would have needed to watch the zealots very closely. The zealots were active against the Occupation.

I would worry about the agenda of the author at your site. I am sure there are better sources around.

Also, plese note anyone can convert to religios Judaism, even the Pope.

Dear George and David,

Early references allude to entering a the state of Christiandom through baptism:

"c893 K. ÆLFRED Oros. II. iv, Ac heo [Rome] for hiere cristendome nuiet is escild. a1134 O.E. Chron. an. 1129 Ealle a et Cristendome hæfdon. c1230 Hali Meid. 33 Forsaken Crist and hire cristendom and rihte bileaue. 1340 HAMPOLE Pr. Consc. 549 Til he thurgh grace may com Til baptem and til cristendom. 1460 J. CAPGRAVE Chron. (1858) 81 Whethir he wold forsake his knythod or his Cristendam. 1529 MORE Dial. Heresy IV. Wks. 259/2 A christen mannes euill liuing, can not be imputed to hys christendome. 1613 SHAKES. Hen. VIII, I. iii. 15. 1642 JER. TAYLOR Episc. xix, Any man that would not have his Christendome suspected. 1681 BAXTER Search Schism. ii. 13 Admitted to Christendom by baptism" - Oxford English Dictionary (Etymology)

p.s. It's not my typing this time :-). I was born in the wrong century.

Dear OUG,

The OED confirmed the earlier post on the word Jew. Please beware some sites don't have good intensions.

Hello Dan,

I'm still not sure where you stand regarding the age of the universe.

Dear Oliver,

I appreciate your posts. What century would you have rather been born in? Perhaps that should start a Forum string. My great grandfather lived in three centuries. b. 1799 d. 1906.

oh/what a tangled-web..we weave..to decieve
if its not in plain-speak..one needs wonder...WHY?

to quote..<<.,.c893..K...ÆLFRED/Oros...II...iv,..Ac/heo..[Rome]>>>

i get egsactly one words/here
and one date
maybe-one/name

but as its not written/clearly...im guesing
and im/guessing..so are-thee

<<for hiere/cristendome..nuiet is escild>>

ok thats..germen?
my weak dutch...reads..it as
[for here chrison-dome....is not..esclid?]

then more gibbvering..destractions
<<a1134 O.E. Chron. an. 1129>>

then some more germainic[not germain..rambling]
<<Ealle a et Cristendome hæfdon.>>
all chriastom/have..>>presumably..written,,circa<<c1230 Hali Meid.>>
by a pwerson-age..called hali/maid...likely to be one of the<<..33 Forsaken Crist and hire cristendom and rihte bileaue.>>

then[maybe in circa..<<..1340..>>maybe..a personage..<<HAMPOLE Pr. Consc...549..>>wrote the gibberish..<<Til he thurgh grace may com Til baptem and til cristendom.>>.

something about baptism..through/grace..
till baptuism..tioll chrisondumb..[wtf..how does this validate/jews?]

..this is off topic...but lets try to make sense..of your gibberish

<<1460 J...CAPGRAVE/Chron...(1858)..81..Whethir he wold forsake his knythod/or his Cristendam.>>>ok thats some...knights..thing..we could presume..thats re..the invasion of JE-ruse-all-em

but more of your proof..lol<<..1529 MORE/Dial...Heresy>>lol<<IV. Wks.,...259/2>>not a lot about JEWss..eh?..

<<A christen/mannes..euill liuing,..can not be imputed to hys christendome.>>>ah...yes veddy..yewish...lol..pure yiddish...YOL

<<1613/SHAKES...Hen...VIII,..I./iii.,..15.>>
shake=spear?...lol

<<1642..JER./TAYLOR/Episc...xix>>>hey were getting from the anglo-deception..into englAsh..[but nothing ABOUT JEWS..but more about decieving/..its suss...bro

<<Any man/that would/not..have his Christendome suspected.>>>
must lie through/his teeth
self-justification

SEE THE J..scam
J..e-ruse-salum/..J..eSUSS/J-ohn../J-ews/J-udea/J-orden
how/much more obvious..does the deceit..called his-story..need be?

your final/proof...[re-proof?]
re proof..of J-u

<<1681/BAXTER..Search Schism...ii./13..Admitted to Christendom..by baptism"..Oxford English Dictionary..(Etymology)>>

ahhh yes..very...sure roots into jude-ism..lol

see 2 de link..back...
the IS-REAL-ITES..didnt..use J
Yews...[maybe]...Jews..never

dont be taken..in by all you read

or to quote..you back/2/u

<<..Please be/ware..some sites..don't have good intensions.>>

thats because..PEOPLEs..have intentions/justifications/excuses...reasons..

[his=story..is full/of-it]..

written/by..the victor

to hide..the vile..they do...did

so they can/be Justified..to keep=on..doing it