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Sacred masculinity : Comments

By Warwick Marsh, published 1/4/2010

We must reject the demonisation of the masculine, or the feminine, and work towards the renewal of healthy manhood.

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Sorry runner

I jumped in a bit soon in defence at what I thought was going to be yet another in a long list of anti-woman posts. Sometimes these sorts of discussions tend to turn into claims that mothers are to blame for all woes.

Feminism means different things to people as is reflected by the wide ranging comments on OLO. Feminism as far as I am aware did not lobby for abolition of fatherhood.

The problem is not feminism. The problems we face lie in selfishness for sure, but this is universal and should not be laid at the feet of the feminist movement which had its origins in egalitarianism, equity and fairness.

Feminism got some things wrong IMO, it has probably unintentionally degraded the role of women who have chosen to stay at home for a period of time in a misguided attempt to gain respect or equality.

Instead of boosting the role of mother (father) it made it less important or about 'juggling' priorities as though somehow we have all become superhuman and able to leap tall buildings.

Greed is to blame and that is not gender specific.
Posted by pelican, Thursday, 1 April 2010 4:35:28 PM
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for a change Pelican I can't really argue with anything you have said. Feminism should of been a wake up call for men to show some servant leadership in their homes. Unfortunately so many of them lost any moral authority and hence become emasculated. You see among men who actually support radical feminism. Usually they have forfeited the right to lead their own homes and despise those who do.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 1 April 2010 5:33:17 PM
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For every claim that Che Guevara was Castro's executioner there are a thousand T shirts to refute it.
How can all those T shirts be wrong?
Posted by Proxy, Thursday, 1 April 2010 8:10:22 PM
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A particularly stupid article, but Proxy's clever comment warrants a response.

My uni student son gave me a Che Guevara t-shirt last Christmas. It's brilliant aesthetically (red and white Che head on black) so I actually wear it sometimes, usually attracting some kind of (approving) comment, mostly from young people. I live in the bush, so I find this quite interesting.

My dear son was somewhat crestfallen when I eventually informed him that Che Guevara was actually a murderous thug in real life. Having said that, he (Che) has become an enduring symbol of resistance to the excesses of rampant capitalism, which is probably why his image is still popular among the young and/or alienated. Anyway, I seem to be able to still get away with wearing the t-shirt, so I like it :)

In addition to the very tenuous relevance of Guevara to Marsh's rant about his apparently threatened masculinity, I must say that one thing that annoyed me particularly about this dumb sermon is Marsh's references to music and literature that he clearly doesn't 'get'.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Thursday, 1 April 2010 9:30:26 PM
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Heh, heh, C J is forever building up his image. Doesn't matter what the story is C J has one better and flattering himself of course.

Of course there would be approving looks Dahling, that goes without saying.

Golly gosh, you are a legend in your lunchtime C J.

Hold on, it was 1 April.
Posted by Cornflower, Friday, 2 April 2010 7:46:17 AM
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You really are a miserable old goose, aren't you Corny? Do try and have a nice long weekend.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Friday, 2 April 2010 8:18:42 AM
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