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Land of opportunity, but not for monoculturalists : Comments

By Rachel Woodlock, published 17/2/2010

While young Muslim Australians can positively appreciate Australia as a land of opportunity, Ms Pauline Hanson cannot.

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Ngarmada wrote

"Examples of prime indicators of profiles of racist bigots;

[1] Gross exaggeration and obsessive distortion;

As attributed to ozzie: “Now 4 out of the last 5 murders in Australia have been committed by Indians. Still this case was constantly presented in the media as being a racist Australian attack.”

Please explain to me exactly where is the gross exaggeration in my statement?
As far as I can see what I have stated is strictly a statement of fact.
Posted by ozzie, Monday, 8 March 2010 9:44:59 PM
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Cherful,
Distortion - misleading alteration: the describing or reporting of something in a way that is inaccurate or misleading.

[1] the problem with your central supposition is its failure to explain the property of diversity as pivotal to evolution. It is obvious diversity would be impossible within humanity if its driving force was predating itself. It is only repressed, bigoted loonies who are obsessed with the fear of the barbarians at the gate. What you believe is not necessarily credible because you believe it. Do you remember Y2K?

[2] to explain the ignition of World War I without addressing the history of the Balkans is irresponsible.

[3] peddling propaganda misrepresenting World War II as a territorial conflict between Germans and Jews is not only historically irresponsible, its reprehensibly misleading.

[4] your overview of the Sri Lankan conflict overlooks the fact the ruling population alleged as committing genocidal atrocities against Tamils, of their overwhelming majority, are committed to the non violent Buddhist faith.

[5] the conflict of the Palestinians and Jews conveniently omits Jews commitment to Zionism. There has never been an Israel, nor Israeli Jews, in the entire recorded history of the region, a record of some 5 millenia, until the creation of Israel in the mid 20th century. For those 5 millenium, Jews and Palestinians generally cohabited the region harmoniously, as their religions are observed historically, as similarly accomplishing elsewhere in the world. Both cultures did not however, enjoy the company of the Hittites, Assyrians, Persians, Romans etc., because those societies invaded them.

[6] The major incursion of the Japanese into China did not occur until after western invasion following the Opium War. Until that time, their incursions into China are comparatively observed, highly restricted of their conquest achievement.

Are you sure you’re in the same dimension as the rest of us Cherful?
Posted by Ngarmada, Monday, 8 March 2010 10:34:44 PM
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Cherful its great to have you here at OLO. I've always felt that Online Opinion doesn't have enough pseudo-intellectual, anti-academic, non-university educated, semi-race theorising, half-wits posting comments in the forums. Ozzie has waged a valiant one man campaign but he is only human or there-abouts. But as impressed as I am about your contribution there are a few minor points:

1. It's Wikipedia not Wikapedia.
2. WW1 was the result of immigration? Well that would be news to AJP Taylor.
3. It was the Austrian Crown Prince Archduke Franz Ferdinand who was assasinated.
4. Austria made the demands on Serbia, not Germany.
5. The Austro-Hungarian army invaded Serbia.
6. The alliances between the Central Powers and the Allies weren't really dictated by blood-lines. Might have been a small factor. It certainly wasn't there in the German-Ottoman alliance.
7. "Territorial hostility" between the Germans and the Jews?? Ethnic tensions maybe but territorial hostility?!
8. Don't believe everything you read on Wikipedia - it could have been written by anyone (even Ozzie).
9. Take a look at a map of India and Sri Lanka. Sri Lanka is way closer to South India than it is to North India. So the Tamils were probably in Sri Lanka first. The North Indian Sinhalese most likely came later.

Its interesting how you conflate "territorial hostility" with economic issues.
Perhaps if you'd gone to uni you could've worked out how to spell "Cheerful".
Posted by Lucy Montgomery, Monday, 8 March 2010 10:35:38 PM
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I overlooked the Wikipedia error Cherful. Wiki defines the Maori as united under one king. Extraordinarily interesting information being a complete surprise to myself and the overwhelming majority of the entire Maori people.

A colonial construct and tactic for control of the Maori who were ‘troublesome’ [could not be dominated] while independent of their tribes, it is recorded as an abject colonial failure.

I omitted to answer your question. I am a strong believer in the merging of peoples. In fact I strongly support merging racists with outer space.
Posted by Ngarmada, Monday, 8 March 2010 11:32:42 PM
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Ozzie, please identify the last 5 murders of which 4 were committed by Indians. The entire continents of both Australia and India would be intrigued to know. You’re posts are observed becoming increasingly pathetic as incessant, obsessive, racist, rantings.
Posted by Ngarmada, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 8:02:55 AM
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Ngarmada said

"Ozzie, please identify the last 5 murders of which 4 were committed by Indians. The entire continents of both Australia and India would be intrigued to know. You’re posts are observed becoming increasingly pathetic as incessant, obsessive, racist, rantings."

OK, here they are

A) In early Jan 2010 Nitin Garg (1) was stabbed to death. The killer remains has not yet been identified.

B) In early Jan 2010 Ranjodh Singh(2) was set alight whilst thought still to be alive. The killers were all indians, Harpreet Bullar, Harpreet Singh and Gnrpreet Singh.

C) In early Feb 2010 Navdeep Singh(3) and Kanwaljit Singh(4) were stabbed to death by an Indian student who was sharing the house with them. The killings were over $20.

D) Just the other day Gurshan Singh(5) was killed by an Indian student taxi driver.

So Ngarmada, count them with me. That's 4 out of 5 recent Indians murdered in Australia were murdered by Indians.

Do you disagree with anything here? Did I do the maths wrong?

If not could you please explain why you said this

"Ngarmada wrote

"Examples of prime indicators of profiles of racist bigots;

[1] Gross exaggeration and obsessive distortion;

As attributed to ozzie: “Now 4 out of the last 5 murders in Australia have been committed by Indians. Still this case was constantly presented in the media as being a racist Australian attack.”

and also please explain to me exactly where is the gross exaggeration in my statement?
As far as I can see what I have stated is strictly a statement of fact.
Posted by ozzie, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 9:55:21 PM
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