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Land of opportunity, but not for monoculturalists : Comments
By Rachel Woodlock, published 17/2/2010While young Muslim Australians can positively appreciate Australia as a land of opportunity, Ms Pauline Hanson cannot.
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Posted by blairbar, Monday, 8 March 2010 5:44:32 AM
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What David said was in response to some fairly offensive posts by you.
You can say whatever you want but you can't dig yourself out of this. Even by your standards using Gurshan Singh's death in that way is reprehensible. The fact that four crimes against Indians in Australians wer committed by other Indians doesn't prove anything. Whites commit crimes against other whites. All it proves is that there was no race element to these particular crimes. Racist assaults do happen. See below: http://www.smh.com.au/national/defendant-must-give-victim-130000-20100131-n6ml.html But obviously not everything that is reported as a racist crime is in fact motivated by racism. Some crimes are opportunistic. Even you can understand that. Posted by Lucy Montgomery, Monday, 8 March 2010 9:50:51 AM
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ozzie before attack upon your character is possible, first your character must be demonstrated to exist.
- When the posts of these despicable racists are observed in dialogue with each other, their descent into incomprehensible ranting, demonstrated by their deviant obsession with absurd and mindless minutae, is readily obvious, e.g; blairbar: “And as my children both married members of the Causcasoid, Sub, Nordic, Aryan, Celtic race, my grandchildren belong to the Proto-Australoid/Causcasoid, Sub, Nordic, Aryan, Celtic race?” Only dysfunctional ‘twisted sister’ racists could possibly comprehend such ravings as anything remotely resembling scientific consideration. It is further obvious why only they understand each other, and find the necessity to seek each others comfort. Misery loves company etc. Their avaricious desire to turn others opinion to their disturbed perspective comprehensively demonstrates their fundamentalist mindset. An apt definition, for their moronic perversity is consistent with such base characteristic. Posted by Ngarmada, Monday, 8 March 2010 2:31:09 PM
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Blairbar <I didn't need to work it out but then where is the science>
The science is in what CJ Morgan and the academics are trying to push with their "there is more genetic difference between people belonging to a so-called ethnic group(race) than there is genetic difference between people of different ethnic groups.> This is their way of trying to push their agenda of the hippy love and peace we are all brothers generation, which they and I grew up in. They are trying to prove that the brotherhood of man is real at the scientific,biological level. As you say you don't need their genetic text books to know that you are of predominantly mixed white European descent and your wife is of Torres Strait Islander descent. I have said to CJ before. That when the ethnic fighting breaks out into civil wars over territorial control, the people on both sides of those conflicts know exactly who their recent bloodlines are, they don't care one hoot about racing off to check the lab results in the scientific text books, about some genetic link from thousands of years ago. The glaring mistake that exists in this science is that it is the bloodlines that the ethnic groups KNOW they belong to, today, who they side with in any conflict. Hello CJ, yes it is me Sharkfin, with a new username due to my changed e-mail address. Posted by CHERFUL, Monday, 8 March 2010 4:55:29 PM
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Racism is a subset of hatred. It is commendable to want to reduce hatred, but if such a campaign is based on hatred, its starting point is the addition of another element to the set.
Posted by Fester, Monday, 8 March 2010 6:50:26 PM
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Ngarmada,
Racism is a symptom of the underlying territorial hostility of one tribe (ethnic group)towards another. Like every other species on earth humans need territory and territorial resources for themselves and their offspring(nearest bloodline) to survive. Multiculturalism unless intregration takes place at a high percentage is always in danger of territorial attacks(terrorism) or civil wars. Don't shoot the messenger for conveying to you what I believe the realities to be. World War 1. Was the result of immmigration. War was triggered when the German Crown Prince went down to pay a royal visit to the huge Serbian immigrant section and was asassinated. The German army was ordered to attack the Serbian immigrants. They called on their old tribe(bloodline) Russia to come to their aid. Which they did. Surrounding countries became involved, Britain was pulled in to it because of allied treaties and Australia also became involved because of their alliance with Britain. You can look this up on Wikapedia. World War 2 --When the economic situation in Germany was near collaspe the smouldering territorial hostility of the Germans towards the Jews reached boiling point. The hostility and fighting between the Jews and the Germans goes back many centuries. Some actual recorded history which you can read on Wikipedia tells how fighting would often break out in the towns between the Germans and the Jews. It was stated that the hostility was never about religion but always over economics. In other words it was territorial. The Sri Lankian boat people -- Tamils, who immigrated in large numbers into Sri Lanka and eventually waged a 20year guerilla war against the original ihabitants for a separate country. The present conflict between the Palestinians and the Jews ----Is overwhelmingly a fight over land and territory The Japanese killed 15millions Chinese in their so called expansion for the Greater Good of Asia scheme. All races even yours have their bloody histories, for reasons of territorial control. Be it the taking or the defence of. Are you non racist enough to marry out of your ethnic group Ngarmada? Posted by CHERFUL, Monday, 8 March 2010 8:32:29 PM
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"To the fellow who asked what race his children were, his wife being of Torrres Strait Island descent and he being of many different white race descent. The obvious answer is part Torres Strait Islander and Mixed European descent. Most people wouldn't need a science book to work that out."
Dear Cherful
So I am a descendant of many different “white races"? The English race? Scottish race? Irish race? German race? These are not races: they are national or ethnic groupings.
As children inherit half their genes from their father and the other half from their mother then my children are of course “mixed” descent. But what if any race are they? That was my question. According to your argument they would belong to the English/Scottish/Irish/German/Torres Strait Islander race. And as my son’s wife’s ancestors include Scots, English, Irish, American Indian, then their children must belong to the English/Scottish/Irish/German/Torres Strait Islander/ American Indian race.
And you are right. I didn’t need a science book to work it out. But then where is the science?