I agree Hellfire: as we all know and live it; paying GST and dozens of other taxes that were supposedly implemented to knock off the deficit when Howard first became PM. Am still annoyed that this tax is being paid out continuously; forget any new 'major' additional tax to pay for the current PM's mismanagement.

There have been plenty of opportunities to reduce spending costs and allocate funding to primary areas. The defence situation requires closer consideration and reduction of costs; as does the despatch of the AFP staff o/s. These are only two areas where the current PM could have reduced spending to improve the nation.

On every occasion labor has been in power I have witnessed and lived through the battle of high costs on essentials; food clothing mortgages etc. The introduction of the first home buyers grant was ridiculous. All that caused for first home buyers [all ages and many young people] was a huge debt that many are now unable to meet as a result of real estates pushing up the prices another 30,000 as soon as the govt announced it. Many of these people will now find themselves unable to meet their repayments.

300 Billion+ again in deficit under a Labor govt. Again, another tax to be imposed upon us

Hellfire,
Do you really believe a Carbon Tax will be any cheaper to the consumer than an ETS?

This is a system that allows emissions to continue without any upper limit and any costs to the polluters will be entirely passed onto - "guess who".

Before any limits are set, the polluters will ramp up their emissions to higher levels so that any return to normal levels will be seen as a reduction and be rewarded.

Both systems are flawed but only one has a compensation system built in.

That's why the Carbon Tax system was investigated and rejected by the Garnaut Report.

Wobbles, You are seriously in error in thinking I support any carbon tax. I do not believe in a carbon Tax. This is what an ETS is and I do not support it in any way.
If you log on to the web site I recommened in an earlier posting you will find sufficient evidence to realise that climate change has been a cyclic thing and that CO2 is NOT the cause of global warming. KRUDD and TURNBULL are both wrong on this issue which is why Turnbull who would otherwise been a great future PM lost the leadership of his party.In any case even if carbon emissions was the cause of global warming and Australia reduced it's emiisions to zero it would have no effect worldwide while major nations like China increase their emmissions by more than our total emmissions every couple of weeks. My vote is we do not need to do anything but Tony Abbott's policy to plant trees ets as direct action to reduce our Carbon footprint has my vote just in case us climate change skeptics have not got it right.I'm definately for more trees as they are the lungs of the earth and turn CO2 into O2.
A Tax on Carbon Emissions (ETS) as proposed by KRUDD and Co is just a TAX on Australians for us to bear with no proof it will reduce carbon emissions at all.It would only be a tax that is passed on to an already overtaxed public.

BTW, Why is nobody suggesting a tax cut for people &/or business reducing their carbon footprint? What ever happened to, trying a carrot, before using the stick as a last resort?

Rudd and Wong cannot accept their spendthrift holiday is over. Australians, according to recent polls, are overwhelmingly rejecting the mean and tricky con these two merchants tried to pull on the Australian public.

Any 'green' who still accepts global warming is manmade is tied to the irrational nature of their viewpoint, faces future public ridicule and completely lacks any credibility with the Australian voting public.

Their legacy might well see the demise of green popularity as sensible people leave their now apparently corrupted movememt ... unless it's self-appointed masters and political leaders resign and vacate the media ... en masse.