For goodness sakes why is it that no one posting here takes into
account that the two state solution defies the Koran and no moslem
can promote it without risking blasphemy.
Why do you think this argument goes on and on.
The chant "From the River to the Sea" is what it is about.
The Palestinians have said it often enough that the Jews must be
driven out of the Middle East or all killed so there can be no Jews
left in the area.

Why is it you do not believe them ?

Bazz

You are right. There will never be a 'two state' set up. There will never be any peace. As the only democracy in the ME, Israel needs to be supported by the West. The brave little country will always be under threat, and the anti-Semitic government of Australia has given more encouragement to Israel's enemies. The ALP has certainly bottomed out since Bob Hawke led it.

Yuyutsu,

The link I gave from the Center for Strategic and
International Studies (CSIS) has received from
Media Bias/Fact Check an overall rating as being
the least biased on balanced story selection and
minimal editorial bias. They've been rated Very High
for factual reporting due to exceptional sourcing of
information and a clean fact-check record.

I had assumed that you would understand the points
that were being made - which I thought were fair.
I am not interested in any personal attacks. I have no
intention of apologising for the views I cite - sourced
from reputable sites.

I have no further wish to continue this conversation with
you. It would be pointless to do that.

Hi Maverick,

Isn't politics interesting?

If it's not one thing it's another.
All we can do is watch from the side-lines
and pick our teams. Although nowadays it's
becoming harder to do.

I honestly wish the current government all the
best in what they're trying to achieve. They
haven't been in for that long - and they've
got a lot to deal with.

As for Lidia Thorpe? She showed us an ugly side
of politics - which could have been better handled.
But at least she wasn't the suck-up that Jacinta
Price was/is. I 'll be watching to see where
Thorpe's future lies. If she's given another chance
that is. It's up to Bandt - if he can see any political\
advantage in keeping her. - that is. We'll have to wait and
see.

Hi Bazz,

Lets get some things straight. The possibility of a
lasting deal between Israel and Palestine appears to
be as far away as ever. And what we've seen from
the history of failed negotiations tells us that it
is because Israel prefers the status quo.

Their military oppressive regime and continued
occupation with no signs of it being dis-mantled
can't be blamed on the Palestinians. Neither can
the violence which invariably becomes more attractive
to those who have no others means of upsetting the
status quo.

Until Israel is forced to change its tune - nothing will
eventuate. Why don't you believe that and stop shifting
the blame. Put it where it belongs - on Israel. The abused
have become the abusers - Israel does not want to negotiate.

Yuyutsu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmYJ1fIhQBU

Characterising Ben-Givr as a prancing NAZI on Israel’s Saturday night live, re this link, will only win votes, so that’s actually a good outcome.

Dan.