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Conflict between freedom of religion and individual rights

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Some religious groups claim that their religion compels them to discriminate against homosexuals and others that their sacred books designate as sinners. They also wish to hire those who subscribe to their religion for activities that have nothing to do with religion. Their hospitals will not perform medical procedures which conflict with their religious beliefs. The government of Australia does not discriminate against individuals on the basis of sexual orientation or religious belief. The laws of Australia conflict with the dictates of some religions.

There is a simple solution. Religious groups have subsidies for such activities as operating employment services and tax exemption for real estate and other property. If religious organizations wish to discriminate on grounds that are not legitimate by the laws of Australia let them forgo subsidies and tax exemptions and in return let them discriminate as they will
Posted by david f, Sunday, 16 October 2022 11:55:45 AM
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Bad idea on two points. Without Christian hospitals and schools - and charities - government alternatives would be floundering.

Also, the idea of withdrawing funds because some people don't like Christians expressing their beliefs is abominable.

Even the Albanese government would draw the line on that, if only from a practical, common sense motive.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 16 October 2022 4:29:29 PM
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Not sure about the opposition though, whose leader took time out from NOT opposing Net Zero madness to vilify orthodox Christian beliefs last week, describing Christian teaching on homosexuality and abortion as ‘an abomination’.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 16 October 2022 4:43:43 PM
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«Some religious groups...»

To be accurate, some groups who claim to constitute a religion.

«...claim that their religion compels them to discriminate against homosexuals»

Which groups exactly?
The most likely reason for claiming so is that they failed to read and/or understand their own scriptures.

«and others that their sacred books designate as sinners»

Ah, gossipers!

Do Australian laws prohibit the discrimination against gossipers?

«They also wish to hire those who subscribe to their religion for activities that have nothing to do with religion. Their hospitals will not perform medical procedures which conflict with their religious beliefs»

They, along with everyone else, religious or otherwise, should be free to do all that. Nobody should ever be forced to hire someone they don't want, no matter why; and nobody should ever be forced to perform medical procedures they do not want to perform, no matter why.

«If religious organizations wish to discriminate on grounds that are not legitimate by the laws of Australia let them forgo subsidies and tax exemptions»

Sure, I would support that, however nobody should receive government-subsidies and tax exemptions in the first place!

Those who discriminate against homosexuals should not be punished by the state - nevertheless, they will eventually have to spend time in hell, suffering equivalently to the suffering they inflicted on others who happen to be homosexual. Also for giving religion a bad reputation!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 16 October 2022 4:54:22 PM
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Dear Yuyutsu,

I don't see how one can give religion a good reputation.
Posted by david f, Sunday, 16 October 2022 5:15:53 PM
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If Homosexuality were natural why hasn't the human body evolved accordingly ?
Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 16 October 2022 6:10:00 PM
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