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cricky a Paid trade Union Official. Well Goooollly! "that is a real surprise".
For a start I am not old. Secondly I think my English is pretty good.
Perhaps my spelling is not as if I were born here. Australia is home and my first love but sometimes I get the two languages mixed and dont express myself the same.

Is this the way you treat people from other countries as A Paid Union Offical.? I mean is this an official ALP policy?

Well I guess that makes more sense if your being paid. I was wondering why you were following me around to be honest.
I dont get paid myself because my concern is to help Animals but moments like these do make it worth while I must confess.

I honestly do not know what your mean by the `other fellow` in Newcastle or pulling someone out of a machine so I can not comment/.

You sound like you need to lie down with a Bex. Take it easy belly its just a forum not live news.[ lucky for you]

Has it ever occured to you that by following me around rubbishing pale calling me old, bitter, poking fun at my spelling is not a good look for a paid union official?

If the Howard crew are reading these threads they will be rolling on the floor with laughter. I have got to addmitt I find you enjoyable belly.
Its been a really good day filled with laughter and a great time has been had by all.
We owe you a great deal for that.
Who said the ALP were not good for something.
A PAID UNION OFFICIAL PICKING ON A LITTLE OLD BITTER LADY TRYING TO HELP ANIMALS[ In your own words.]

This is better than the ABC Chasers
funny As!

I pale ask you is the post you used to tell me your birth place was Kempsy wrong?
Is the one about your grandfather being a bullock driver not about you?
Did you not tell me in one of your posts you remember sitting with him as he boiled the billy?
My grandfather was such even though I am 62 soon I have no memory of him.
How many do post as pale?
to what end?
I am honoree VP of my branch of my union a paid official, I am VP of a ham radio club and have been office holder in far more including bush fire, rescue, SES, WICIEN but never ,not once used those groups to put forward my private views.
you seem unable to stop insulting people debate is about proving your point.
not running amuck in childlike insulting ways that belittle your group, is pale happy for you to continue your spite filled rants in its name?
Like the person who miss lead you you trade by default in lies and seem remote from the fact Australia is not even close to sharing your views.
Right or wrong pale I am union forever, live on my union wages drive my union car and in my view value fairness and honesty in all things.
And place my views on politics on record against your here, the day after the change in government you may regret the things you have said about our then prime minister.
A man pale may need to deal with, PR is much needed in your group balance and understanding is not present.
Animal welfare deserves better.
I must go now that red China thread is so funny it needs a re read.
pale you surly must agree the person who posted tonight is not the one born just up the road?

Belly
You have settled down. [Good] What do you expect when you come into a thread purposely put the boot in.
That’s not the old Labour blokes I recall.
You must understand anything that is said is NOT personal although we all take it as such, it’s just a forum.
I didn’t like the lack of concern about the person reporting the rape and you have always refused to discuss live exports intensive farming and Animal Welfare.
We all have a duty to protect our most innocent including union officials. The person you are enquiring about was in Kempsey the other day at a family funeral.
I am sorry you don’t recall your grandfather that’s sad.
I will try to resist the obvious crack about the ham radio club.
I will admit its killing me- but pardon the ignorance what’s that?
You say Australian people do not agree with us but they do.
For years they have screamed about shipping our jobs off overseas and none more than the AMIEU[in the past]
There is nothing wrong with being loyal and doing what you think is fair. I am not sure your old Labour morals are fitting with Kevin however. He’s not real Labour as it was.
He’s more a young trade boy full of fresh new ideas and some of the old.
Well you may say we need a PR person but I have just slaughtered you and you know it.
Still if you want to help all offers excepted because the animals need these one hundred year old laws brought into line with the rest of the modern world.
I would like to discuss some things about Labour and Rudd’s policies and his advisers but you have shown no interest in the past.
Do you think it is possible now you and I belly could bold some sensible talks without you biting my head off?
I am also interested in these rival unions that’s bothering you.
Perhaps we can communicate. It’s up to you.
MR RUDD A FAIR GO FOR AUSTRALIAS FARM ANIMALS.
SLAUGHTER HERE AND SUPPORT THE AMIEU

This is my last post in this thread it is pointless to try to tell you of your rudeness, however I note you removed you post that defamed me, thanks, gone but not forgotten.
In a strange way I know you do not understand the insults are indeed personal, the female game of verbal tennis in some hands is meant to hurt and quite brutal.
It has no relation to truth and no intent at fairness.
So here in your last post you actually admit others use the cooperate name pale here?! WHY?
Yes one poster said I was born just up the road in Kempsy! and my grand dad was a bullock driver! I loved to watch him boil the billy!
I am not aware I have supernatural powers, well maybe just a bit, my grandfather died before I was born, so forgive me.
pale the group now, is it time to tell the truth? just how many post under that name?
WHY?
Is every thought that of pale? can it be such amateurish rants are policy?
And have other supporters just maybe lost the plot with strange threads and even stranger charges?
The election campaign is about to get heated and dirty, on form we are more than likely to see a change of government , would you want the anti Rudd/Labor rants to be handed to Rudd just before he met with you to discus your wishes?
Is it not true firms spend big money trying to get a message across while some in this old Lady's tea party that seems to be pale are unaware of PR, or diplomacy?
who is pale? is animal welfare your aim or a front? are we addressing one or a crowd?

Belly
No idea which post you are referring to being taken off. If Graham took something off then it was for a reason.

I am curious to know what it was to be honest. Don’t suppose you could pop it back up so I could read it ah? [Just kidding]

You say you have looked at the PALE web site you may have noticed Tom Hannan X Federal Leader of the AMIEU for thirty five years as our adviser.

Tom is one of the most informed people in Australia. He’s one of yours. A top bloke with a quick wit and outrageous sense of humor... Kevin Rudd and Labour could do a lot worse to have him as an advisor. [Part time because he’s retired.] I must add doubt the man would be interested but my point is I am not Anti Labour people just wimps who are self serving. - That’s not directed at you]

For years we have invited Labour advisers to meetings with overseas contacts and heads of Muslim councils to visit the possibility of a new policy for Labour. Labour advisors liked what they heard and I know that was sincere.
However they lacked the enthusiasm to follow it through and failed to show at meetings that THEY suggested for two years.

Then of course Jack Lake Kym Beasley’s adviser probably stepped in and refused to even look.

No wonder why Kym went down because you need a good advisor belly. We are all only as good as the rest of the team and Kevin can’t do it all.
Mr. Rudd has already said he will not be stopping live exports Belly.
He’s going to follow through on more of the same policy the national and Howard put up.

Exporting raw materials from Australia no matter what they are is irresponsible. Sure we can export but after we have value added. I feel you are not interested in Australia’s future past your union job.
If you are then why not discuss reopening abattoirs in Australia.

AMIEU guys really need it.

Don’t you care about your own.?

I wonder if we all do it? yes we do get of thread of subject me too.
But this thread is about the somewhat strange view that Rudd betrays us and America by promising to bring our troops home, in part, from Iraq.
Debating points have been put that we should be able to act for our country's interests.
That it would not harm our relationship with America.
That under a new leader America will leave soon.
My view is we one day must fight the forces that are intent on killing or ruling us.
But Iraq was wrong, it empowered people who think only in terms of middle ages hate to promise glorious death to some who have no education other than hate.
We will not win in Iraq, crime and corruption will, hate and tribal war will, we did more harm than good.
Yes pull out of Iraq, and wait till we are called upon again but next time lets be assured no other option exists.
And that America has better than Rumsfold planning it.