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Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 2:16:57 PM
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Hi Hasbeen,
Don't knock it until you've tried it! (smile). Or in our case - the time may come when we don't have a choice because the global population is predicted to reach 9.7 billion by 2050. And of course one of the biggest challenges will be securing enough food for everyone. And unless we do pay attention to climate change and environmentally harmful practices and emerging dioeases that threaten our supply chains - we'll be in big trouble. Two billion people from 130 countries already eat insects. As do many Australians. Did you know that the natural red food colouring is made from the cochineal bug, or that 5% of peanut butter is legally allowed to contain insect fragments. CSIRO has launched its "Edible Insects Industry Roadmap." This carries out a comprehensive plan explaining the challenges and opportunities for Australia to become a player in a global industry worth A$1.4 billion by 2023. Plus a report from 2006 found that 20% of Australians surveyed were keen to eat a witjuri grub ( sometimes spelled witchetty grub). First Nations Australians have been eating insects for tens of thousands of years. How do you know what you're eating when you travel to Bali and other "exotic" places? I can still remember while living in Los Angeles being invited to a dinner-party by a colleague of my husband and thinking how delicious the food was. One item that I really liked that was served as an entre and I ate with great gusto, was so crunchy and crispy - and simply yum, until someone whispered that I was eating grasshoppers. Anyhow - we shall live and learn and adapt, I guess. If we live that long. There's more at the following link: http://theconversation.com/4-reasons-insects-could-be-a-staple-in-aussie-diets-from-zesty-tree-ants-to-peanut-buttery-bogong-moths-159348 Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 4:17:35 PM
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It's a wonder the lunatic left hasn't come with the idea of people eating each other to reduce the population. Themselves excluded of course.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 5:10:49 PM
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The so-called experts have been predicting for 2 1/2 centuries that we were going to run out of food due to population increases.
They've been wrong. Every. Single. Time. And they are wrong this time as well. Even if the projection that world population will max out at around 10 billion (and that is highly unlikely)are right, we already have the ability to fed that number. Large parts of the globe under cultivation are not yet optimised. If those areas became as productive as the average modern western farm, the world would be able to produce food for some 15 billion. Add to that all the projected advances like vertical farming and GMO and we don't have the slightest reason to be concerned for famine. Of course, if the powers-that-be really were concerned about our ability to feed ourselves, they'd stop importing more mouths. That they continue immigration at record levels proves that their concerns about future food supplies is mere fearmongering. But as we saw with Covid and global warming, large parts of the population readily fall for such fearmongering. Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 5:53:41 PM
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People who've suffered due to drought and floods
and may continue to do so in the foreseeable future may have different views. The same goes for countries who currently have water shortages. And farmers are beginning for workers because the locals aren't willing to move out of the urban areas and help them out. Farmers warn that agriculture will suffer as a result if help doesn't become available. The work is there - the workers are not. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 8:19:50 PM
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Foxy, if we cut the dole for all single people, there would suddenly be a rash of weddings, but it would cure the farm labor shortage quite quickly.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 9:21:53 PM
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“Crispy grasshoppers, better known as Chapulines, are a delicacy in Oaxaca and are popular all over Mexico. They’re often eaten as a snack on their own or used as a toping to add crunch and texture, like we offer on our guacamole at [my restaurant] Johnny Sánchez. Think Mexican bacon bits. After being cleaned thoroughly, we toast them on a comal—a traditional Mexican griddle—with chili and lime to add spice and flavor. They’re absolutely delicious and are a great source of protein.”
Hi Hassy, Once my 'Seniors National Service" is up and running, endless aged welfare will be a thing of the past. With a "Hi, ho, hi, ho, off to work we go" the aged and decrepit will be out of 'Gods Waiting Room" away from the one armed bandits, cheap schooners, free bingo and $10 lunches on a Wednesdays, and into the hard yakka! Sounds good so far does it not. That will save us, the poor struggling taxpayers, well, not you, me, see it gets better all the time! Wow you say, yes indeed after 16 hours of toil digging ditches the retirees will really be able to retire....to their tents in the newly created burb of Sunny Gulag for 4 hours of well earned rest. I hear you now, "Doesn't that forum genius Paul1405 have such great ideas!" Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 15 September 2022 9:44:23 AM
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What a nasty little man you are Paul, wanting to send oldies who can't bend, out to pick strawberries. However you have given me an idea.
All bureaucrats & other government employees should have in their contract 1/3 of their time in farm labour. I'm sure the heads of the finance department would learn more about economics that effect real people out working with them than they ever did at a university as they have become. Then we have all the office workers truck & bus drivers, not to forget the limousine drivers who spend far too much time sitting in their fattening butt, who would profit from some fresh air & exercise. Thanks for triggering the thought that might save the world from famine. Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 15 September 2022 12:04:42 PM
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No need to thank me Hassy,
Okay, strawberries are out, watermelons are in! Picking melons in the fresh air and sunshine, saving backs, how invigorating. BTW, that will save on government issued can beans, more dollars in the pocket of needy taxpayers. Hope you enjoy watermelon, it will be the main course for breakfast, lunch and tea from now on. BTW, I'm not heartless, those who can't bend, will be hung upside down by their legs, in the perfect picking position. It will do wonders for their backs! Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 15 September 2022 1:20:31 PM
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Hi Hasbeen,
Talking about not being able to bend. I've invited family over for dinner on Sunday and today I spent the afternoon preparing a traditional fish-dish that needs to marinade in a tomato and onion sauce. It involved lots of cooking and chopping of onions - not counting the washing up. By the time I'd finished - I was exhausted. "I'm too old for this " I thought. But it's my son's birthday and he loves that dish. So does my husband. I'll be making the Russian and potato salads on Sunday - as well as the meat dishes. Anyhow - next time I just might leave it up to the Red Rooster franchise to do the catering. They're fried chicken. chicken wings and sliders, are delicious. I'm not sure about taking any body off the dole as you suggest. I'd be more inclined to force them to work for it - if they're physically able - especially young people Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 15 September 2022 3:12:22 PM
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How does one feed enough grasshoppers to to produce enough grasshoppers?
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 15 September 2022 4:11:59 PM
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I hear-tell there were a lot of locusts in ancient Egypt around the time of Moses. Perhaps we should ask Seti I how he grew them.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 15 September 2022 5:56:23 PM
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Foxy,
The Aboriginal Australians that I have hunted and lived with have eaten witchety grubs as a delicacy but never as substantial food; they have much preferred red meat be it ‘roo of wallaby, steak or mutton and with a preference for duck rather than chook. What I have observed over many years is not any preference for insects. The rarer pink witcherty grub from submerged logs in coastal lagoons are a particular favourite, though not one of mine; the only insects that I’e ingested have been unfortunate accidents. Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 15 September 2022 6:58:40 PM
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Hi Issy,
"The Aboriginal Australians that I have hunted" how many did you bag in a day? As a kid, I once ate a witcherty grub (partly) fresh from a rotten log. Not that nice, bloody awful in fact, I spat it out. Did you see the cockroach farm in China? In a huge shed they keep millions of cockroaches, fed on scraps from restaurants. Around the shed is a moat (keeps the cockroaches in), and in the moat are fish, big fat fish fed on the cockroaches. Great sustainability. I love seafood, the wife particularly loves 'kina' (sea urchin) which have internals much like a witcherty grub. What's the difference? I love fresh oysters. Remember 'Soylent Green' with your man Charlton Heston. Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 16 September 2022 5:46:44 AM
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When I was a teenager I went hunting with Aboriginal teenagers on an uninhabited island off the coast of northern Queensland. (They played 'tree chasies', which is the same as chasies, only in the forest canopy.)
The best soup I have every tasted - world class - was the fresh turtle and shark-fin soup they cooked up in the billy on the beach, the only other flavouring a dash of sea-water. Absolutely delicious. The left would be in paroxysms of agony over this - whether to exult in black privilege or hate them for eating meat. Posted by Cumberland, Friday, 16 September 2022 12:40:06 PM
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We all have different tastes in many things, including
food. I remember when sour-cream was considered yuck by some. As were gherkins. And don't get me started on yogurt. Now look how far our country has come. How popular is sushi, herrings, and bratwurst and kranski, pickled cabbage. not to mention what we drink - and their exotic combinations. Did you know that the most expensive cheese comes from a donkey? Posted by Foxy, Friday, 16 September 2022 1:04:23 PM
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Morning all.
Quite a while since I have posted on OLO. Ref de topic. An old Trade Commissioner I met on my wanders years ago told me one can eat most anything with impunity if one downs a couple of good slugs of, Rum, Whiskey or similar prior to dining, preferably at sundown. It will keep Montezumas Revenge, Delhi Belly and other nameless Bowel Bugs at bay he said. His advice appeared to have value as I did indulge in meals and snacks with very dubious origins along the way with no ill effects. Take it easy. SD Posted by Shaggy Dog, Sunday, 18 September 2022 10:44:28 AM
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Foxy,
The change in the Australian diet whilst being most palatable also had another good spin off, the almost complete disappearance of the all to common boils. Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 18 September 2022 11:14:02 AM
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Is Mise,
The so called "English diet," that some of my school friends introduced me to decades ago when I was invited to share their dinners I found to be somewhat bland and watery. And the vegetables unimaginative. But of course I wouldn't have dreamed mentioning it. Funny though when they came to my home - they always asked for seconds and ate with great relish. They'd even want to swap their school-lunches with me. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 18 September 2022 3:53:41 PM
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Times now of course are different. Not only in this
country but in England as well die to the influx of "outsiders." For which we can all be grateful. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 18 September 2022 3:55:59 PM
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Issy, I believe the number is 27, am I correct? Do you boil up Galahs and eating them, or do you consider that "cannibalism". !0 year back you were flogging a book on the Forum, refresh my memory was it "Road Kill Recipes for the Unsuccessful Hunter"?
What about Elephant, Robert Borsak NSW Shooters Party MP, admitted in the NSW Parliament he ate an Elephant after shooting it in Zimbabwe (That's a big feed, even for the obese Borsak). The defenceless animal was driven out by beaters into the path of Borsak, who was safely hidden behind a wall of protection. Borsak then proceed to use a high powered gun to shoot the poor fear stricken animal from a safe distance, for which he had paid a fat fee to do so. This is the sort of trash we don't need in parliament. . Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 18 September 2022 4:05:03 PM
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In one month the world will have 8 billion people- by 2035 it will have 9 billion people- dominance by ethnic colonialism- a different sort of arms race- hopefully some of these arms will go down rather than up- in a liberal bid for rights rather than responsibility.
Posted by Canem Malum, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 2:07:57 AM
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Canem Malum
Just out of curiosity, how come your nic is in the accusative case? Posted by Cumberland, Saturday, 24 September 2022 12:34:13 AM
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I'm not eating dogs or cats, I'm not eating plant-based or lab-grown meat, and I'm not eating insects.
- Not going to happen, end of story - So you dumb morons at universities better come up with a better plan. Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 24 September 2022 1:36:06 AM
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Hi AC,
When cooked "It all taste like chicken"! dog, cat, elephant, don't know about cockroaches, if they would taste like chicken, maybe. Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 24 September 2022 6:20:03 AM
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I remember helping mum strain the flour to get the weevils [& their residue] from the flour. It was no use complaining to the grocer, what we had was all he could get.
Interestingly the global warming ratbags are now suggesting we were wasting our time. Evidentially according to their plan for us peasants, we should have given thanks for the extra protein, & eaten the bugs, not sure about their plan for the residue, but that is probably in their plans for our future diet too. They obviously think we are sh1t, so probably expect us to be happy to eat it.
I don't know if it is something in the water, or perhaps in the Covid jab, but our elites do appear to be stark raving bonkers in their plans for an insect diet for us.
I knew a few Chimbu, & Kukukuku people in New Guinea in the 70s who were still eating their neighbors into the 60s. Perhaps we could ship our elites to PNG, I gather some old habits are resurrecting. They could probably make our elites of some use to humanity & their diet.