Foxy you tell us The Refugee Council of Australia tells us that:

"By definition refugees are survivors. They have survived
because of their courage, ingenuity and creativity.

WRONG. They are the losers. They are the side who lost the civil war, or the political bun fight, & had to get out of their country. They are the very type we don't need today. There have been times when whole countries were overwhelmed by far superior strength, & deserved a second chance, but those days are gone. Most refugees lost in a nasty local fight.

You mention some extremely successful refugees, as if they have helped Oz people from the goodness of their heart. Again wrong. They have has successful business careers for their own benefit, & their own benefit is what they have worked for. Ask a few of their employees how nice many of them are to work for.

At this time of growing economic crisis, the last thing we need is more basically useless mouths to feed & house, when we can't even house our own.

"The more people we take in, the poorer those already here become individually".

What a totally ignorant statement. This guy just doesn't understand there is more to national wealth than simple population numbers. ttbn do you not consider education levels, stability of government, resources, investment etc. I assume if Bill Gates and Warren Buffett suddenly decided to immigrate to Australia, and invested their wealth here, and you disappeared to Ethiopia, Australia would be net worse off. Somehow I don't think so.

In Australia the most consistent and best performing state over the past 20 years for income and wealth generation is New South Wales, whilst the poorest is Tasmania, just ahead of South Australia. NSW has around 14 times the population of Tasmania and also has a higher population density. Why is it so?

Hi Hasbeen,

I must say that you definitely have surprised me.
I certainly did not expect such negativity from you.
And it does worry me because I have respected your
opinion in the past.

Coming from people who came to this country as refugees
and have built lives here I see things differently to
you. To me the earlier a country commits to protecting
refugees, the earlier they can move forward with
their lives without uncertainty blocking the way.

Most importantly accepting them protects the most precious
right of all - the right to live.

Turning our backs on refugees could in many cases be fatal for
them. Accepting refugees and providing the most basic
protections is in many cases life-saving.

By providing refugees with the right to work, to health,
to education - refugees can start productive lives in their
host countries. The faster they can integrate into the
labour force the faster they can become productive members
of society.

Most migration economists agree the presence of more
foreigners in the labour force does not hurt the locals.
Mainly because the locals and foreigners typically have a
different set of skills and compete for different jobs. A fact
corroborated using data on refugees settled in Australia.
Local workers often do better in the presence of more
migrants in the labour force.

Lastly, we know that migrants engage in entrepreneurship
at a much higher rates than locals which creates more jobs
every year. Refugees also play a fundamental role in
fostering international trade and investment.

Refugees can more the needle when it comes to integrating
their communities in global markets in robust ways.

There's much more that can be said. But for now this will
have to do.

Hassie, I hope that you can have a think about what's
coming out of your posts. It's not a good look.

Hasbeen,

Lets also not forget that when the nation needed workers
in rural industries and agriculture there was a shortage
of interest from the local (and still is) and the
government had to increase migration to solve the labour
shortage. Roads, dams, infrastructure construction, the
sugar cane industry and other rural productions were
saved and built by immigrants. Even in many professional
fields foreign names dominate.

Hasbeen,

Yes. The majority of the populations of these countries manage; the losers and users scuttle away like rats and fool the gullible virtue signallers in Australia. Selfish bludgers, praised by fools for feathering their own nests and leaving their own people to deal with whatever it is the bludgers are running away from. As you say, many of them who do make good exploit their own countrymen. I witnessed that sort of behaviour among migrants after WW2; and they were mainly 'civilised' Europeans. It's much worse now among non-European cultures, Non-Christian- principled.

The continuation of mass immigration for the of sake greed, and acceptance of 'refugees' stupidly believed to be more deserving of a new start than the majority they leave behind in the country they run from, will eventually bring Australia down.

On second thoughts: the Australians who go along with allowing these bludgers in are not gullible: they are fully-aware whiteants who, actually want to see their country on the skids for extreme Marxist/Communist ideology reasons. Fans of the Great Reset, stupid enough to think that they will be among the very few of the fascists on top of the brave new world.

Hi Foxy,

No good speaking the truth to a couple of geriatric rednecks, as we have here.

Hasbeen once declared on this forum that we should nuk Pakistan, and have the Australian Navy open fire on unarmed refugee boats! Happy to wipe out 200 million people, he now hides from those claims. Anyway, its only the macabre machinations of a silly old man who has never contributed to Australia's productivity, and like ttbn, now collects taxpayer funded welfare, a drain on society.