THERE IS HOPE FOR "VOICE IN" PARLIAMENT AFTER ALL

Mavers has been doing some none-vitriolic research and things look more promising.

The "First Peoples Assembly of Victoria" looks like it started in 2019 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_State_Government#First_Peoples'_Assembly_of_Victoria

Since 2019 the sky hasn't fallen.

which may well, in a good way, be a preliminary model for a Federal body

The Assembly has worked toward "Victoria passes landmark legislation to create First Nations treaty authority"
see http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/aug/16/victoria-passes-landmark-legislation-to-create-first-nations-treaty-authority

So we OLOers can assess the First Nations ASSEMBLY of Victoria now

then the Victorian First Nations TREATY AUTHORITY http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jun/07/decolonisation-in-action-victorian-treaty-negotiations-to-be-overseen-by-independent-authority

before the Federal Referendum.
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NOTE: Mavers judges things issue by issue rather than ideologically.

Foxy,

The addition to the constitution that Albozo has proposed does not in any way exclude a defacto veto. And if they get a +ve result they can pretty much do whatever they want to the constitution.

Constitutional experts have rejected claims that
the Voice would have veto power. It is a representative
advisory body only. "There are no veto powers. There is
NO capacity for the Voice to amend or stop legislation.
It would neither be able to over turn nor veto any policies,
nor would it be able to prevent any laws coming into place."

Our former Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull says -
"I will be voting YES to establish an Indigenous Voice to
Parliament. He explains here why he has changed his mind:

http://theguardian.com/australia-news/commentisfree/2022/aug/15/i-will-be-voting-yes-to-establish-an-indigenous-voice-to-parliament

Foxy,

I am amazed at how many constitutional experts have a psychic vision of the future.

And they know this how?

If the Voice doesn’t get its own way the supporters will cry “Racism” and weak politicians, afraid for their lively hood will cave in like eggshells under elephants.
Just watch Victoria once the Referendum is over

Hi Foxy,

You are spot on with what you say, but the truth is not going to deter our Forum band of rednecks and racists claiming otherwise. In the minds of some only lies and distortions will defeat this referendum.

Hi Issy,

There is no elephant walking on eggshells, Elephant Bob from the Shooters and Hooters Party shot the bloody elephant!