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If not now, when?

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Foxy,

Your last post gave your game away. You clearly admitted that the left's objective is "It's about ensuring that there will always be a First
Nations Voice in the centre of decision-making"

So essentially giving 3% of the population a race-based veto on legislation. In South Africa that was called apartheid.
Posted by shadowminister, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 1:31:45 PM
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This is not a game.

"A Voice to Parliament gives the Australian government
the opportunity to make policies with Aboriginal and
Torres Strait Islander people, rather than for
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people."

"A Voice to Parliament is a body enshrined in the
Constitution that would enable Aboriginal and
Torres Strait Islander people to provide advice to the
Parliament on policies and projects that impact their lives."

http://fromtheheart.com.au/what-is-a-voice-to-pariiament/
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 1:59:33 PM
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Foxy,

The left is playing fast and loose with the truth and playing a game that if they cock it up as usual will have serious detrimental consequences in perpetuity.

Labor put ATSIC in place as a non-constitutional version of this voice and it collapsed under graft and criminality. What Labor has proposed is a stronger more corrupt version of ASTIC (apartheid) in perpetuity.
Posted by shadowminister, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 2:08:31 PM
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FROM ABOVE

Jacinta's Australia Day Speech: ‘Reflect, Respect, Celebrate’ PART THREE

January 26, 2022 http://www.jacintaprice.com/jacinta_price_australia_day_speech_reflect_respect_celebrate

"* We have learnt what the word ‘innovate’ can do for us in so many ways. It’s about being open, finding a way... I’ve seen videos of people cooking food with an iron in quarantine, people providing a need in crisis that has turned into small business, and what we can put together as a meal with limited food, having an open mind and heart.

For all the positive reflections, there have been negative ones, which shed a light on ourselves, our situations and for government, on our future policy and economic investment priorities. Some of these include:

* Increased rates of domestic violence
* Isolation and access to support
* Small business fighting to survive
* Mental health deterioration
* Fiscal impacts of a National Health Biosecurity outbreak and the responses and reactions to it

Governments have tried to mitigate the impacts from COVID-19 as much as possible. We have vaccines, we have health systems that are equipped and capable and we have an aware community. This is not by any means ignoring the fact that every single one of us has been impacted, especially those that have lost loved ones in terrible isolated situations.

Recipients of Australian of the Year Awards have done and continue to do remarkable things for our nation. But let me take a moment to reflect on the unsung heroes of the heart, our frontline health works, all the public servants behind the scenes who have worked tirelessly to get all the technology, vaccines, public policies and processes in place to protect us and make our experience as less of an impact as possible. To them I say thank you.

Going back to Miriam’s advice, the words — for true application regarding Australia Day and what it means to be Australian — would encourage a genuine Indigenous design for who we are and how we behave, where:

* keyboard warriors would step away from the screens..."

MORE LATER
Posted by Maverick, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 2:09:31 PM
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Australia remains a land where no treaties. no
constitutional recognition of the place of
Aboriginal and Torres Strait peoples has been
resolved of their political standing in modern
Australia.

We can see from this discussion there's some
awful, toxic stuff that we're getting from
those who take bad interpretations of what's
happening.

Claims of preferential treatment and that it's
racist against white Australians are being
thrown around. Their point is to convince people
that this is not worthwhile.

We need to listen to Indigenous Australians whose
careful consultation process has led them to this point.

I hope that no one really wants to discriminate against
our First Nations people. If we can at least give them a chance
to contribute constructively to make their self-determination
happen - surely we are capable of doing that.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 2:18:05 PM
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Why listen only to one voice - that of Senator Price?

There's a whole gamut of First Nation's people that
have spoken. Why not heed what they are saying?

Do any of us really pay attention to Pauline Hanson
or Mark Latham?

Most of us don't!
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 2:23:25 PM
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