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If not now, when?

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Foxy:
The Flag - a symbol , usually on a piece of cloth: that people can voluntarily display or not at their own pleasure.
The Anthem - a song: that people may sing or not at their own pleasure.
Australia Day - a day off work to celebrate: that people can celebrate or not at their own pleasure.

The Constitution - a document that has the power of life and death and establishes/maintains the existence of a whole society. It applies to every person of Austrlian citizenship and every person in the bounds of the country whether they like it or not*. And it is exceptionally hard to reverse any changes to it.

Changes to the constitution are way more important than changes to the others. Any change to the constitution needs significant debate and deliberation. Any change should be unambiguously detailed and well understood by all (especially the possible consequences of it- no matter how unlikely those consequences are). No change should be made due to whimsical feeling or notions.

[* Admittedly there are possible minor corner cases- like diplomats and the Queen(?)]
Posted by thinkabit, Saturday, 6 August 2022 3:09:34 PM
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Foxy
Good idea to travel within Australia, I started in my teens and saw beautiful places that are now but a memory, some are under water and others under asphalt or simply removed.

Travel was helped considerably by the fact that I worked on the NSW Govt. Raillway and got a free All Lines pass for holidays.
Presenting the pass in other States as proof of being a railwayman invariably resulted in a free All Lines pass for that State and, from the blokes on the job, somewhere safe and dry to sleep on railway property and not a few invites home for a good meal.

Them were the days!!
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 6 August 2022 3:16:58 PM
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thinkabit,

Each of us has to make a decision as to what we are
going to support or not. To you I suggest to read the
link I gave if you haven't read it. It bears thinking
about things before making your decision about the
referendum when the time comes. This was my intention
in giving the link. We've had so many decisions that have
already been made on our behalf. This time we are being
given a chance as to what kind of country we want Australia
to be for the next one hundred years.

I'd like a say in that - and if it means that inserting
what needs to be done into our Constitution - I think will
be well worth it - to finally recognise our First Nations
people.

It's the least we can do.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 6 August 2022 3:26:57 PM
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Is Mise,

Thanks for that. How lovely that must have been.

That's the chap that I would have loved meeting and
getting to know. (sigh).
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 6 August 2022 3:29:37 PM
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thinkabit,

I forgot to add - that giving our First Nations people
a Voice to Parliament won't affect the rest of us.
So if you don't object to all the other symbols given
earlier - then you should not object to the Voice
either.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 6 August 2022 3:34:55 PM
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The choice is between the status quo and a whimsical racial change to the constitution.

Until I know what we are voting for the answer is NO.
Posted by shadowminister, Saturday, 6 August 2022 3:37:05 PM
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