Thinkabit,

Teslas have a bit of a snob value. I saw 2015 Nissan Leafs going for about $15000 compared to the new price of about $65000.

My friend had an e-type Jag that he bought in the 70s for about $5000 and sold it recently for $250 000

TAB,

In engineering terms, the order of magnitude of base 2 is frequently used.

SM: "In engineering terms, the order of magnitude of base 2 is frequently used.".

But even using this definition the difference in price between the ICE and the Electric Kona is still less than an order of magnitude (log base 2 of 1.6 is less than 1).

SM: "Teslas have a bit of a snob value."

Really? To have snob value you typically need something 1) considered luxurious/exotic, 2) exclusive (ie: rare), 3) preferably with a long established elite brand name history or a brand name that is new and exciting that the market hasn't seen much of yet. But Teslas are mass produced cars the majority of which are just family targeted cars, in fact this year the company could take the title as the manufacturer of the world's most sold car of the year, the Model Y. The Model Y is just a family SUV. Regarding the sales date I gave above, the model S has been on sale for just over a decade so is neither well a established decades old model nor an exciting must have new thing. Or as IsMise puts it- when comparing apples to apples, Teslas are Granny Smiths.

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SM: "I saw 2015 Nissan Leafs going for about $15000 compared to the new price of about $65000."

Firstly, is the $65000 the price for a new Leaf today or the price at the time (you don't say which and I'm curious to know)?.

But anyway:
Here are the top 5 *cheapest* Nissan leaf's from 2016 and 2017 (ie: about 5 years old) currently available for sale on www.carsales.com.au
2017 Nissan LEAF S AZE0 Auto (131,000 km) - $26,888
2016 Nissan LEAF X AZE0 Auto (54,131 km) - $26,999
2017 Nissan LEAF ZE1 Auto (44,544 km) - $39,990
2017 Nissan LEAF S AZE0 Auto (89,000 km) - $23,900
2017 Nissan LEAF ZE1 Auto (64,400 km) - $35,000

Now compare that to the Nissan Pulsar ST hatchback 2017 (I believe the Leaf was based on the Pulsar ST so it makes sense to compare it). This webpage: https://www.carsguide.com.au/nissan/pulsar/price/2017 says that cheapest it has available is $8300 for an ST manual to most expensive available at $17,100 for an ST-L auto.

Unfortunately, I've had a quick look but can't find any websites giving me the original price for a Pulsar ST back in 2017. And since it is no longer available I can't even use a current 2022 price. But looking at these prices above my suspicion is that the Leaf has held it value well when compared to the Pulsar. If you can find a site listing the original Pulsar price then let me know.

"According to General Motors, the Volt battery holds 16 kwh of electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery. The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned.

Cost is approximately (and varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kwh. 16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery. $18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the Volt using the battery. Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine that gets only 32 mpg. $3.19 per gallon divided by 32 Mpg = $0.10 per mile!
"The gasoline powered car costs about $25,000, while the Volt costs $46,000 plus. So, the [g0vernment] wants loyal [citizens] not to do the math. But, simply pay twice as much for a car, that costs more than seven times as much to run, and takes three times longer to drive across the country!”

For example, the tests fail to account for the fact that when driving, very few of us do so without the radio on, air conditioning, or our heated seats, all of which drain the battery at a faster rate. Similarly, the tests do not consider the weight your new EV might be carrying, say a carload full of kids and all their sporting gear, your vacation luggage, or the trailer you are hauling.

TAB,

The resale price list from Nissan is less friendly to 2nd hand electric cars.

Note that the prices you quoted were asking prices not sale prices.

http://www.carsguide.com.au/nissan/leaf/price