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Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 10:21:50 AM
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Thinkabit,
Morgan cars, built in the UK, have enjoyed rhe phenomenon of being worth more second hand than new price for years, they are the only car, afaik, that one can sell the option of buying one from the factory at a profit, price depending on remaining waiting time. Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 1:33:35 PM
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Steele,
Good video; I’ve had a solar panel for some 40 years that still charges batteries, I bought it back when I had a small yacht to keep the batteries charged, it is a deck mounted walk on model, but it hasn’t been walked on for over 30 years. I could be interested in a Sion. Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 1:41:04 PM
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IsMise: I will admit that for my "Nothing like this has ever happened before..." comment you have found a counter example. However, you're not comparing apples with apples.
The Morgan Motor Company is an obscure boutique manufacture of handmade cars (so obscure I had to look it up: at 850 cars a year it's understandable that I've never heard of it). You can easily believe that a product so small scale, specialised and exclusive could have such a high second hand price. This is common many the products of many fancy artisan hobby scale businesses. On the other hand Telsa is main stream mass producer. How big is Telsa? Well next year the Telsa model Y will almost certainly be the world's top selling car! In fact this video makes the argument that it is possible that even this year the model Y could be number one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xThx1-KVlnw . What's most amazing about fact is when you realise that Tesla has only been around for about 20 years (it was incorporated in July 2003). And the model Y was unveiled in March 2019, with first deliveries in March 2020. So if by the end of next year it is the world's best selling car (that is quite a safe bet), then the Model Y will have gone from zero on the roads to best seller in less than 4 years. As I said above: The EV revolution is happening right now. Posted by thinkabit, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 3:09:38 PM
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The reason second hand EVs, not all, are selling for more than new
is because the manufacturers are not keen on supplying Australia. It has something to do with the emission rules for IC cars. Some people can't wait till next December for their new car. Anyway it does not matter what governments or people say EVs are coming because the oil companies gave the car manufacturers the drum that they are getting out of the oil business earlier than expected. As far as Hasbeen said the vast majority of EVs do not need to be fully charged every night. A friend of mine charges his about two nights every week. He drives it to work every day for about 50km. That is what the majority of cars do each day. Unfortunately I agree, we will not see a fall in EV prices for quite some time yet. The situation with the decline in range due to the battery performance falling is real but an industry development will happen where independent companies will replace failing cells. There is a company in Brisbane already doing this for some brands. Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 5:42:40 PM
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Thinkabit,
I was comparing apples with apples, Black Diamond variety with Granny Smith’s. Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 6:19:53 PM
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Here is the car for you mate.
It recharges itself from sunlight giving the typical German owner a range of about 15kms per day of range.
In a hot country like Australia that is expected to double to 30kms per day.
All without having to plug it in.
It is very affordable to boot and you can even make money off it by recharging other vehicles.
Bit of a game changer really.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjoHimaqqfY