Is Mise:

You made me smile with that last comment. :)

EVs in Aus are still a joke.

They cost an order of magnitude more than petrol-driven cars and the emissions they cause by using fossil fuel-generated electricity is roughly the same as the petrol cars.

PS

The resale value of an EV car after 5 years is a fraction of the original value.

Morgan is a perfect example of what a car manufacturer can be if they don't chase economies of scale, & build more of their cars than the market wants.

I ordered my mew Morgan +4 in 1961, it arrived just over 12 months later in 1962. It cost 1,444 pounds, a little more than an MG & a little less than a Triumph.I sold it 2 years later for 1000 pounds.

8 years later it was sold for 64,000 dollars & shipped to France.

As with my appreciating Honda S2000, it pays to be more discerning & buy something rather than the run of the mill shopping trolley

shadowminister: "The resale value of an EV car after 5 years is a fraction of the original value."

That's complete BS as far as Teslas are concerned. To prove it, you can go to this webpage : http://www.carsales.com.au/cars/tesla/ , then limit the search to cars before 2017 and sort by price (low-to-high) and see the results. You will find that Tesla's hold their value well compared to other mass produced cars.

Though, I suspect that you won't bother doing what I suggest so I'll give you the first 10 results which happen to be all model S's. Model S was the most commonly newly sold Telsa back then - it was before the model 3 and model Y were released.

Firstly for comparsion, the price for a brand new Model S back in 2015 (according to http://www.drive.com.au/news/tesla-model-s-prices-rise-due-to-australian-currency-struggles/ ):
70D - $106,900
85 - $114,900
85D - $121,000
P85D - $148,000

And now for the search results (these excl Govt charges):
1) 2014 Tesla Model S 85 Auto (191,000 km) - $66,000
2) 2014 Tesla Model S P85 Auto (131,102 km) - $69,990
3) 2014 Tesla Model S 85 Auto (61,563 km) - $74,986
4) 2015 Tesla Model S 85D Auto AWD (69,899 km) - $77,990
5) 2016 Tesla Model S 75 Auto (65,550 km) - $79,000
6) 2014 Tesla Model S 85 Auto (61,176 km) - $79,999
7) 2015 Tesla Model S 85D Auto AWD (124,500 km) - $83,500
8) 2015 Tesla Model S 60 Auto (99,851 km) - $84,500
9) 2014 Tesla Model S P85 Auto (81,000 km) $84,990
10) 2014 Tesla Model S P85 Auto (80,000 km) - $85,000

So that's less than a 50% decrease in 7-to-9 years, that's not a bad for a mass produced car. And remember, we went for the 10 *cheapest* 2nd hand Tesla's available on the web-site!

[Note: of course shadowminister could be pedantic here a say that 1/2 is still a fraction, but it is clear that he is trying to claim that the resale value is a vastly smaller fraction that this.]

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Also, he claims that "They cost an order of magnitude more than petrol-driven cars..." which is simply not true. An order of magnitude is at least 10 times more. But if you compare say, the Kona Elite (petrol 2.0 liter) model at $35,750 to the Kona Electric (standard range) at $58,400 the EV is about 1.6 times more expensive. The reason why it is sensible to compare these cars as an example is because these two are basically the exact same car- except one has an electric engine while the other is ICE.

Did you know that EVs can be charged from a suitable IC powered portable generator?
There are also trailers with battery packs that can be towed as backups; handy apparently when going on long trips where outlets may be a problem.
Also a battery trailer with solar panels gives greater pease of mind.