CG: "Actually I thought it was more to do with helping fulfil the prophecy of Revelations - in that the Jews must be living in Israel for Revelations to work."

Quite so, CG. I forgot about that aspect of the Apocalypse :O

"Where's Boazy? Thought he'd have bitten by now?"

I was just thinking that's why he's been rabbiting on a bit lately about Jews and Palestinians and such. Clearly, fundies want to bring on Armageddon - which is what I reckon's really at the bottom of all the fear-mongering and rabble-rousing crap.

Rob513264, could you please give some concrete examples of or clarify what you mean by "the profound support of American Fundamentalist Christians for Jews" and the more sinister "how Fundamentalist Christians usually treat people who reject Jesus Christ". Also, are you identifying all Christians with this group? As the discussion has quickly moved past a minority political group to "Christians" as a whole.
Country Gal: there are so many resources available which give clarity on Revelations. A good starting point might be:
www.crivoice.org/millenium.html
Even if you feign disinterest, you have obviously thought about this so an informed opinion is better to post than a vague notion.
The self-deprecating Jewish response to CJ Morgan, might be "God, can't you choose someone else next time". But seriously, the diaspora outnumber those living in Israel....
Jews and Christians share common roots, a historical relationship, and God the Creator. As a Christian, it is our great hope that "(And) if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again." (Romans 11:23) Not an insurmountable task either, for "...how much more readily will these, the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree!". (Romans 11:24)
Which I understand is mumbo jumbo for many, however it simply means that Christians love the Jewish people and need to hold out the message of salvation through Jesus Christ to them, along with the rest of humankind. So it is not "fundamentalist" at all, neither is it "Christian" to support Jews simply because they share a political agenda or a common enemy.

I can understand lots of reasons for support of Israel
that is not the problem
what I cannot understand is how the fundamentalists
deal with the specific issue of supporting a group
which denies that Jesus was Christ.

I am not trying to start a fight as was suggested
I find this a genuine conundrum
I suspect most 'supportive' Christians
probably dont even think about it.

Any examples of how fundies treat denialists:
Look at how Boazy treats Muslims.

In any event non-believers
will be cast into 'hellfire and brimstone'.

Since God himself
is apparently going to torture non-believers
for all eternity
it seems a bit odd to be helping them establish
a Jesus-denying community on Earth doesnt it?

If it is to facilitate Amageddon
- well the mind just boggles.

"what I cannot understand is how the fundamentalists
deal with the specific issue of supporting a group
which denies that Jesus was Christ."

Because they were chosen by God.

You need to quantify your statements Rob.

"Since God himself
is apparently going to torture non-believers
for all eternity..."

How?

For a view of how some of the fundies think, try http://www.raptureready.com/ . And google rapture or tribulatons or revelations - some very interesting results.

*CHOMP* there you are CG :) I bit.

ROB.... we (Christians) support Israel for many reasons.

Lets be clear though on one thing. We support Israel in:
a)It's right to exist.
b)It's right to defend it's existence justly.

Justly, in the sense that they should not act in a cruel manner simply for the sake of it. But war is unquestionably brutal, and we cannot avoid that.

FULFILLMENT OF PROPHECY.. If you asked 'modern cosmopolitan Israelis' they would not have a clue. If you ask a Settler they will refer more than likely to Ezekiel 37.. and the Covenant with Abraham, I strongly recommend you read the following verrrrrry carefully.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=33&chapter=37&version=31

ABRAHAMIC COVENANT.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=1&chapter=11&version=31

To gain an understanding of this, it is very neccessary to read Genesis 11 to the end. Sorry but its compulsory :)

Gen 11 is fascinating. Post flood genealogical connection from Noah to Abraham.... (focus on that line of descent) then, focus on the Abrahamic line. V.27 is amazing..it shows how an individual "Haran" becomes a 'PLACE' (as they had families and grew, places were named after them)

CHRISTIANS will have various eschatological reasons/understandings about where Israel fits in, but many will agree that God alone is sovereign over that. But evangelicals will be pretty much unanimous on the importance of the return to the real land of Israel.