mhaze,

Opinions are like arse-holes. Everybody has one.
And on this forum some of us do find opinions that
are repugnant to us. On the up-side - these opinions
come from total strangers - people who normally
would not be part of our social circle or with whom
we would not indulge in debating. However, here we
all are. And of course we can always turn off our
computers and not take part - if and when it suits us.

I stand by my comments to you Sir. I did give Donald
Trump's comments in context and I did give them in their
totality. You did not do that with your attempts to smear
President Barack Obama - and you can try to wriggle out
of it as much as you like - your post speaks for itself.
Including tha fact that you attributed a quote to Obama that
he did not make.

Bad form

I was watching live some of the events of Charlottesville as they unfolded.
mhaze is right, the left were out of control on that occasion and the right were fairly well behaved for the most part, but the media spun it, as they always do to suit whatever narrative it is.

I keep telling you all -
The media isn't unbiased.
They highlight narratives they want us to hear;
And suppress the information they don't want us to hear.

" I stand by my comments to you Sir."

So do you still think that there were no 'fine people' among the people who marched in favour of the statues in Charlottesville? None? I suspect you'll dodge that one.

Oh and all the quotes I had about Obama were either from his own mouth or from White House officials passing on what he said. That you don't want it to be true, isn't the same thing as it not being true. I know that might shock you.

mhaze,

Not good enough Sir.

Your last quote that you attributed to Obama was made
by conservative Rush Limbaugh in his rant on
"Obama's America." The other quotes you did not give
in their proper context.

As for there being any good people amongst the violent
mob? I'm sure that there are "good" people everywhere.
However, Trump willfully made statements that in context
resulted, encouraged and resulted in lawless action.
Obama did no such thing. Therein lies the difference.

mhaze,

You're the one wanting things to be true.
When they're not. I'm the one simply stating
facts - that are on record and are true.

People have a right to their opinions but no one
has a right to be wrong in their facts. Opinions
are not facts.

Foxy,
" Rush Limbaugh in his rant on "Obama's America."

Limbaugh's speech was given in November 2009.
The Obama advice to "punch back twice as hard" was given in August 2009.

Let me know if you need help working out which came first and who was quoting who.

"Trump willfully made statements that in context
resulted, encouraged and resulted in lawless action."

Trump's comment about fine people came AFTER the events in Charlottesville. Let me know if you need help working out if the speech caused the violence or was a response to the violence.