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Concealed Hand Guns In New York, Sydney And Melbourne

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In a worrying ruling for the majority of the citizens of New York the conservative dominated US Supreme Court has overturned a law that required New Yorkers to show ‘proper cause’ to carry guns in public. This ruling has opened the door for almost all Americans to carry concealed and loaded handguns in public. This decision was cheered by the NRA as they, and some Republican politicians attempt to load up Americans with loaded guns, despite the mass carnage guns cause in that country.

How does that affect Australia, could we one day see Australians in Sydney and Melbourne carrying concealed loaded handguns into the local supermarket and picture theatre, could the day come when folks here are required to check in their pistol(s) before entering a saloon (pub or club), Dodge City style.

For most of us in Australians carrying a loaded concealed handgun sounds ridiculous, yet there are gun groups and aspiring politicians who support that kind of wacko behaviour. The Shooters Party and others have policy that lends itself to exactly that, I quote the NSW Shooters Party policy;

"Establish family and home protection as a genuine reason to own and use a firearm and continue to support measures increasing a person’s right to self-defence."

Coupled with attempts to white ant tough gun laws, given traction, this policy could see Australians carrying concealed handguns just as these people and others would have it.

Does anyone support the carrying of a loaded concealed handgun in public for so called self protection?
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 25 June 2022 6:08:28 PM
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Hi Paul,

Being able to carry a loaded hand gun in public in
Australia would be a disaster. We already have
enough problems with being hit by other weapons -
we don't need to add to the mix with something
that has the potential of being fatal.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 26 June 2022 11:24:50 AM
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Who cares? New Yorkers, maybe. But a lot of them would already be 'carrying' to protect themselves from crazies.

None of our business.

For those simpletons obsessed with the goings on in foreign countries because they have run out of crap to rubbish their own country with, registered firearm ownership in Australia has returned almost to the level it was before the Port Arthur massacre.

And, don't take too much notice of the US Democrat-inspired media when it comes to guns. Despite the hoo ha about 'fully automatic militarily weapons', it is on public record that most firearms used in the American sport of shooting each other are not such weapons at all.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 26 June 2022 12:04:03 PM
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Some evidence please.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 26 June 2022 12:38:59 PM
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In Australia, you need to have a firearms license.
If you have a firearms license, and did things correctly to earn it, then you probably don't want to lose that privilege.

You're probably not going to missue a firearm, knowing you could be charged for wrongdoing and lose that privilege.

(Though your dysfunctional kid may not hold the same view if they're able to get a hold of it.)

On the other side, if you're a criminal and are carrying a firearm, then you're already breaking the law and probably don't really care.
They probably flash it around to other ratbag kids for clout, then likely end up doing something stupid with it.

On some level I'm glad Australia doesn't have so many guns anymore, especially falling into the hands of kids or criminals, the problem is the average person has no real way to defend themselves against a criminal with a gun.

They never talk about the cases where someone with a gun, was able to prevent a crime.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 26 June 2022 1:15:07 PM
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The changes in the US law as a result of this decision are minor. They apply to just 7 states out of the 50. These states say that you can carry a concealed gun only if you get a permit and that, in order to get the permit, you need to convince some official that you have a valid reason for wanting to carry a concealed weapon.

The last part of that is now outlawed. The states in question cannot require that you prove a reason to carry. They can still require a permit but can no longer unreasonably withhold a permit. That's it.
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 26 June 2022 1:32:47 PM
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