- They can't whinge about others going on their private property repeatedly when they are organising to do exactly the same thing...
If I was the judge, I'd laugh at them and they'd be off to community service, if they argue when I laugh in their faces at their stupidity, comtempt of court and more community service.

Now I don't have the power to do these things, and no-one in the country is going to see our discussion, but you know they are organising for the purposes of planning to break laws, and you know I'm right, they shouldn't expect to claim their rights are infringed when people go on their property, when they organise for the specific purposes of doing the exact same thing.

They shouldn't be stopping traffic, people might be on the way to hospital. The cops will only drag them off the road lawfully anyway.

I'd have all of these people spending hours upon hours of community service, building infrastructure for renewables.
They can dig holes for small wind turbines and CCTV, if they try to steal or damage and of the work I'll be planning for them to do.
I'd make their efforts futile and actually help us not hinder us in a path forward.

Watch this, aha my laugh for them morning.
http://twitter.com/atexan575/status/1540485522744819713

At least the police appear to be acting less partisan in NSW than in other states such as Victoria.

If "Blockade Australia" vandalized a vehicle that is perhaps beyond the rights to detain under citizens arrest laws- why didn't they just take down the number plate- they can then obtain the plate details. If someone is on foot it can be difficult to identify a suspect so perhaps different rules of detention apply.

In these situations I understand that things can get a bit out of control.

It's interesting that BA is seemingly aware of the possibility that their organisation could become infiltrated- and take steps to prevent it- not that not wanting to be infiltrated is illegal.

I'm sure that Paul1405 would be ecstatic with the raid if the organisation being raided was on the Traditionalist side of politics- whether there was sufficient reasonable cause or not.

Fascinating.

Remember Paul1405's views about George Pell

As I said right at the beginning of this thread.

"I think we have a real problem in society.
It's really as dumb as fighting over which is better
Ford V's Holden? AFL V's Rugby League?

Why can't I love coal for giving me a life above that of a neanderthal?
- And at the same time -
Why can't I also love practices that are better for the environment?

These people aren't activists they're extremists.
We need better policies, not grind the country to a halt and take us back to the neanderthal age.
We can't move in a direction that is better for the environment if we don't have energy security."

Sorry Paul, but I'm starting to think maybe the only way the Greens to gain votes is to create and capitalise on disunity, not on genuinely good policy.

It's no wonder I spent years saying democracy is flawed.
What's better a 2 party system that never achieves anything;
Or a 1 party system that does?

But I don't want some weird system of total control by the state, I just want good polices
Sadly, no-one in this country seems able to deliver.
Makes me wonder what my Anzac forefathers fought for.
That's what I think.

CM,

"Remember Paul1405's views about George Pell"

My view of Pell was when he was found guilty, he was guilty, when he was found innocent he was innocent, nothing I was going to lose sleep over. I am a firm believer in the rule of law. End of story. Your attempt at a snide innuendo from that comment typifies the type of person you are.

On another thread your were championing the forced extermination of 97% of the worlds population. If you got your way it would make you the worlds greatest mass murderer par excellence. Stalin and Hitler would be squabbling in hell, "look at this GUY, he's outdoing US!" But fortunately its only another one of your fantasies and fortunately for the rest of us, the 97% who are not within your ideal, being part of the Aryan race, it will never come to fruition.

Armchair Critic- I think your last reflection is positive- As the Bible says- seek and you'll find.