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Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 4 June 2022 6:45:11 AM
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Errr, did the Ukraine attack Russia ?
did Russia attack Ukraine ? Hmmmm Posted by Bazz, Saturday, 4 June 2022 10:35:20 AM
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Hey Bazz,
The Neo-Nazi government the US installed after it overthrew the country in 2014 tried to outlaw the Russian language. Crimea overwhelmingly voted for independence, and then voted to become part of the Russian federation. The new government also attacked the Russian speaking people in the Donbass region (Luhansk and Donetsk). These people became known as the 'Seperatists' and also wished to be independent from the new puppet government. The government then spent the last 8 years attacking and indiscriminately killing these people in the Donbass region. Over 14,000 had been killed (This is a low number based only on OSCE estimates and the real number is much higher) over those 8 years until February this year when Putin recognised their independence, at which point Russia then invaded to defend these people, and to demilitarize and de-nazify the country. Also, Ukraine's wishes to join NATO played a part in Russia's decision to do so, as it crossed a red line for Russia and it was the US who overthrew the country and has been providing military support and training to the country since 2014. Putin didn't start the war, he's acted to finish it. Are you one of the people who think the war started in 2022 and not back in 2014? Are you one of the people that ignores the thousands of people who've been killed by the Ukrainian government during the last 8 years? These people have a right under the UN right to self-determination to secede from Ukraine, (but the US and Western countries never recognised it) just as the citizens of Crimea also had every right to do so. Anything else? Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 4 June 2022 11:06:41 AM
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You can't really blame them for wanting to secede, after they saw 160 people burned alive in the Odessa Trade building by members of Svoboda, Right sector and other nationalistic slavic Ukrainians on a god-damn rampage.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 4 June 2022 11:51:46 AM
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AC,
Your assumption that Russian speaking Ukrainians want to join Russia is either naive or simply stupid. In Mykolayiv, the Russian speaking citizens have fought the Russian army to a standstill and are now advancing against Kherson. While Ukrainians are taking heavy casualties so are the Russians. Of their original standing force of 2700 tanks, they have lost more than 1000 and a similar number of armoured personnel carriers and about 20 000 men and a large No of helicopters and a couple of dozen planes. While Russia cannot replace the huge quantities of Materiel, the West with its manufacturing capability rough 50x that of Russia will keep the Ukrainians stocked with state of the art weapons. The next batches include long-range rocket systems predator drones, patriot anti-aircraft systems and more stealthy anti-ship missiles. Russia has a short time to capture land before the Ukrainians are better armed than they are and the clock is ticking. Today I see that the Russians were pushed out of most Severo Donetsk with heavy losses. Posted by shadowminister, Sunday, 5 June 2022 9:54:54 AM
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I take it you didn't watch this one I mentioned earlier?
'As for your other arguments, go here, skip to 45min mark, watch this important video and get yourself up to speed. Then you'll have the same info I've got.' http://youtu.be/COl-b6pD214 "Secondly, you have not offered a jot of proof that the US had anything to do with the overthrow of the Russian puppet government in Ukraine." I take it you also didn't watch these 2 videos either? http://youtu.be/y9hOl8TuBUM http://youtu.be/bpIoBUDuL3U Read the closed captions / read the video descriptions All you're doing is is proving how dumb you are by doubling down on stupid. Why do you think Biden is saying this? https://nypost.com/2022/06/03/biden-says-ukraine-might-have-to-give-russia-land/ TAIL-BETWEEN-LEGS "The next batches include long-range rocket systems predator drones, patriot anti-aircraft systems and more stealthy anti-ship missiles." You mean all 4 long-range rocket systems, which have been dialled back to medium range because Putin said he will retaliate against America if their cities are hit? - Four Systems mate, that's it with maybe 8 more for Britain and France- European economies will be destroyed and tens of millions of people will starve without grain and fertilizer. Putin guarantees the safety of ships leaving Ukraine ports with grain, but there's thousands of soviet era sea mines there that he says Ukraine has to clean up first, they can't ship through Belarus, because of sanctions. http://www.rt.com/news/556578-ukrainians-report-sympathizers-chatbot/ http://www.rt.com/news/556577-kiev-accused-mass-kidnappings/ http://www.rt.com/russia/556544-staged-footage-action-ukraine/ The US is paying the cost of Ukrainian government and the cost of soldiers and defense contractors, most of the stuff they are getting is old junk. http://www.rt.com/russia/556583-ukraine-zelensky-lukashenko-poland/ Zelensky is owned by Kolomoisky, Kolomoiskys younger sister is Larissa Chertok Larissa Chertok is related to Gregoire Chertok - Who works for Rothschild, who's 'old money' rules Europe. Just keep watching the mainstream media and stay dumb, like I care. Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 5 June 2022 11:30:46 AM
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http://youtu.be/0RRdxyIYOjk
Wont be long till there's a full military collapse in the Ukrainian army.
Or a coup against Zelensky, by the Generals who don't want to see any more casualties in their ranks, or disunity from the wives, sisters and mothers, who don't want to see their husbands, brothers and sons die for a part of the country that doesn't even want to be Ukrainian.
Draw a line from Kharkiv to Odessa, everything east of this is Russian speaking people.
Zelensky is a finger puppet of the West, and Kolomoisky who hates Putin,
Zelensky fights for western interests, who will fight to the last Ukrainian to try to weaken Putin, who I might add is making more money from Russia exports with higher oil and gas prices.
Russia has already found new buyers in Asia for most of the oil that EU has been trying to limit, so they won't be getting it back.
The West has truly screwed itself over in all of this.
I paid $32 for a bottle of organic weed killer yesterday at Bunnings (usually under $7 I'm told), Round-up was $57 a bottle, the cheapest. Not to mention the rising cost of food and electricity, ON TOP of the increased cost of house rentals. I'll have to move soon as where I live the government is planning to build sports stadiums for the 2032 Olympics. My car used to cost $50 to fill, now I get half a tank for the same money. We're all paying for this Western stupidity, our government couldn't even look after flood victims but gives $100 million+ in lethal aid to Ukraine.
Maybe when the Greenies and their will to shut down coal power and cause the coming rolling blackouts people might actually start paying attention to path of foolishness and all this Western stupidity, and the grovelling 'diverse' Government will no doubt increase immigration to add to the mess.
This country is going to hell in a handbasket, real quick.