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Murder In America

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The Second Amendment to the U. S. Constitution states: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

It would seem reasonable to change it to: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people who belong to such a Militia to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Posted by david f, Saturday, 28 May 2022 4:50:19 PM
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david f,
The Constitution recognises a preexisting right, if it were changed to not recognising that right , the right would still exist.

Foxy,
When you find a link why do you not copy and paste?
The last link that you gave still dosen’t work.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 28 May 2022 5:09:19 PM
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Hi Issy,

The "scrub bull" self-defence argument carries no weight. There is no significant problem in Australia with attacks from "scrub bulls". You know, and I know, despite what these far right micro parties might say, their objective is the arming of as many Australians as possible. That's right, the GREEN's don't accept that ordinary citizens should be armed on the pretext of requiring a gun for "self-defence". You have a Dodge City mentality when it comes to the possession of firearms.

What happens in America, shocking as it is, stays in America, and the citizens there have to deal with it. Australia is relatively safe at the moment, but gun nuts and their political hacks try at every opportunity to white ant out robust gun laws. Judging by the 0.1% of the popular vote for the Shooters and Hooters Party in the Federal election you're not going to achieve political power any time soon, but take heart, Hitler started off with only a few votes.

Good news! The GREENS have won the seat of BRISBANE, did you back that winner Issy? I put it down to my day of door knocking in the week before the election.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 28 May 2022 5:27:06 PM
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That sounds like a lot of fun o sung wu. I would have liked to be that competent with the range of weapons. We were only lightly trained with small arms, including the issued Smith & Wesson, & were not really expect to do anything much with them.

On the other hand our Sea Venoms had 4 x 20mm cannon with 600 rounds & 8, 60Lb rockets, equivalent to a full salvo from a Daring class destroyers 6 x 4.5 inch guns.

We would have had no trouble taking out the Opera house, [if it had existed then], & most of Circular Quay if we felt so inclined. That none of us ever did shows that we were not all that interested is shooting at things, unless it became really necessary, & we were ordered to do so.
Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 28 May 2022 5:38:28 PM
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Here's the link again:

http://news.stanford.edu/2022/05/25/gun-violence/
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 28 May 2022 6:08:32 PM
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Dear David F.,

As always - yours is a voice of reason.

Thank You.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 28 May 2022 6:13:23 PM
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