I think that people that create arbitrary and "absolute laws" based on ideology that is disconnected from society are more of a danger to society. Most people have a more balanced view on firearms than espoused in university corridors and by socialist ideologues in sacred corridors of trades hall- and accept that- while firearms pose some risk it is balanced by "balance of power" considerations.

There are groups- Freud was one and in a sense Bernay's was another- that believe that society needs to be chained to the enlightened ones of the world for fear of the dangerous crowd- that they cannot be trusted to govern themselves- and they must be de-ethnicized for the greater good- and against their own dilusions- not acknowledging to themselves or especially others that their vision is a vision of "absolute evil".

Freedom is not free. With great power comes great responsibility.

Issy screams we don't mention the gun problem in other countries except America, and that's only because of political considerations. Not true, but I must say my primary consideration is Australia's safety and not wanting the American style gun nuts here to gain traction.

NIGERIA; <<Attackers stormed into the church in the city of Owo and began "shooting sporadically," Adeyemi Olayemi, the legislator representing the Owo constituency in the Ondo State House of Assembly, told CNN.At least 28 people were killed, Olayemi said.>>

Unfortunately Nigeria has Texas style gun laws, in fact more like the "Dodge City" gun laws some like Issy favour. NOTHING TO SEE HERE!

UPDATE; There were another 11 mass shootings reported in the US over the weekend. For the first 5 days of June, 24 people have been shot dead and 70 injured in mass shootings. The worse shooting was in Tulsa Oklahoma; Warren Clinic shooting: At least four people (later 5) were killed and multiple were injured after a shooting inside a building on the Saint Francis Hospital campus. The shooter fatally shot himself. Whose counting when you have all those Red Necks and Good Ol' Boys looking after public safety. NOTHING TO SEE HERE!

btw The population of Oklahoma is about 4 million, about the same as New Zealand. Tulsa has a population of about 400,000. If you look at the demographic of the US daily mass shootings you are just as likely to be a victim of a random mass shooting in Hicksville (pop 37) Tennessee, as you are in big bad New York or Chicago. What do they all have in common LAX GUN LAWS.

Transfer that to an Australian context, there would be random mass shooting in places like Birdsville (pop 115) as there would be in Sydney and Melbourne. If we had LAX GUN LAWS.

Paul,
Pity that you didn’t take the trouble to look up Nigeria’’s gun law before you started your rant.
Nigeria has strict gun laws and civilian weapons are tightly controlled.
The number of guns per 100 population is 17.compared to Australia’s 14.
Nigeria’s murder rate/100,000 is 34.52 or approx 7 times that of the USA.
How do you explain that?

Bye the way, Dodge City is in Kansas.

For some like Issy, robust gun laws are such things as not allowing people to keep a 'Howitzer' in the backyard for neighborhood shelling in the name of self defence. For them lax gun laws are allowing people to keep a 'Howitzer' in the backyard to rearrange the neighbours veggie patch.

How the gun nuts operate in Australia to white ant robust gun laws;

Issy said earlier, that the Shooters Party in NSW had put forward legislation which was designed to "get tough on gun criminals", and the Greens opposed that "feel good legislation", that's true, and that legislation was eventually defeated, not just by the Greens, but by the actions of MP's, from both the Labor and Liberal parties as well. WHY? The reason was the Shooters had wrapped their meaningless get tough on gun crime legislation with other legislation designed to make guns freely available to the so called "law abiding citizens" and refused to separate the nonsense. THat is how these Gun Nuts try to white ant robust gun control laws. Ever since, Issy and co keep repeating the nonsense "The Greens oppose tough criminal gun laws".

If the Greens do not oppose tough gun laws on criminals why did they not seize the chance and.introduce legislation themselves?
Probably for the same reason that they opposed the use of drug sniffer dogs at public places.

That’s the same Greens who want to lower the age of consent for males and who want fully functional males, who say that they feel that they are females, to be allowed to compete as females in women’s sport.
This.might be appropriate in pistol shooting etc., but hardly in swimming, athletics, boxing or wrestling.