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Compare the Pair.

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Cate Elizabeth McGregor.. What team does he/she play for?

We were discussing transgenders in sport. I've got no problem with transgenders pretending, or believing, they are the opposite of what their chromosomes say. But let's not change the subject.

But the issue is whether they be allowed to use the benefits of their early exposure to testosterone to their advantage in sport and, even more importantly, whether women should be forced to complete against people who have that advantage. Anyone interested in the success of female sport should be concerned about this.

But in the end it comes down to a competition between so-called minority groups. Women claim to be discriminated against in salaries etc by male dominated sport and transgender women claim to be discriminated against by being denied to right to play against women. Whose rights are you most concerned with?
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 17 April 2022 1:35:49 PM
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Foxy,

We probably don't have "far to go" before we are replicating Sodom and Gomorrah. It is not being "more understanding" by allowing people who at worst are perverts, at best very ill or mere political white-ants, to normalise themselves. It is the beginning of the end for the West. You don't find this nonsense in non-Western cultures who have stuck with their religions and beliefs for much, much longer than we have. We are discarding 2,000 years of beliefs and values that have made us what we are. Giving in to these people will never make us "better". The descendants of Lenin and his mob (who also used sexual deviation) would have been in charge today if had not been for a better class of person, with the morals and values of the Christian West, than we have today to resist them.

My only consolation, as an old white man with traditional values, is that I won't have to watch the disintegration for much longer.

As for Malcolm McGregor: in this steadily rotting society he is able to call himself Cate, dress like a woman; but, the truth is, he will always be a man named Malcolm, who cannot expect anybody except a few fools to agree to with him.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 17 April 2022 2:15:01 PM
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Coincidentally, a young bloke much smarter than I am, Douglas Murray, observes how "a justified pride in Western civilisation" has been reduced over just 50 years to "shame and a grovelling, irrational debasement".

Activists:

Call for equality, but ignore equal rights.
Talk of anti-racism, but sound deeply racist.
Speak of justice, but seem to mean revenge.

The era in which we live is defined by a civilisational shift that is "rocking the deep underpinnings of our society …. It is war on the society".

New generations are taught an "ignorant view" of our history. All the West's failings, with no corresponding time spent on its glories.

We have surrendered.

Douglas Murray is an openly homosexual man who does not, unlike many, demand any acknowledgement or special treatment.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 17 April 2022 3:09:11 PM
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mhaze,

Regarding the transgender issue in sport?

Sports scientists and researchers will continue to
debate and try to advise on what the best steps
favoured will be. Feb support a blanket ban on
transgender athletes. Most agree that the
regulations should be determined on a sport by sport
basis, especially where safety is a factor (like in
rugby).

The transgender issue is important however protecting
the women's category in sport is also important.
They have fought long enough to have fair competition
in sport.

It's been pointed out that there is not very much information
out there and even less that is really specific to trans
athletes. People have to make the best decisions they can
with the data that is availabe now. That's what sporting
organisations are trying to do.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 17 April 2022 3:26:53 PM
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Foxy,

Good to see you've come around to the sane side. While this isn't a big issue here yet, its gigantic in the US and will hit here at some time.
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 17 April 2022 6:53:19 PM
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In the first week Dumbo Albo has managed to beat himself up, not once but three times. AND he cheers for the same team as I do, not the Labor Party, but the mighty South Sydney Bunnies.

As I said months back Labor needed Mark McGowan in their corner. McGowan would wipe the floor with Morrison. So far Albo has managed two black eyes and a cut lip, all self inflicted.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 17 April 2022 7:03:57 PM
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