o sung wu,

"Do you recall what the unions 'proudly' did during the war in South Vietnam - They wouldn't load the supply Ship, HMAS Jeparit that was scheduled to convey parcels of food, gifts and other personal mail to the diggers fighting in Country?"

That wasn't the first time they did it either. Between September 1939 and June 1941, Russia and Germany were allies. The maritime unions in Australia were controlled by communists controlled by Russia and were therefore opposed to the war. Consequently they delayed and sabotaged the loading of ships being sent to support the Australian forces in Africa and Europe. This continued until Hitler invaded Russia to whom the union leaders were really aligned. Then they demanded that more stuff be loaded and sent.

They were patriots....just not Australian patriots.

mhaze, evidence of 'Pig Iron' Bob's love of Hitler;

"History will label Hitler as one of the great men of the century" - Robert Menzies, Perth Mirror June 1939.

Menzies had spent 2 weeks in NAZI Germany, disappointed he didn't get to meet his beloved Fuhrer, but returned with glowing praise for the achievements of Fascism.

BS mhaze, Australian maritime unions opposed the loading of pig iron bound for Japan. 'Pig Iron' Bob was demanding Japan get the much needed iron to make bombs to drop on the hapless Chinese.

Mhaze,

For Pauliar to believe what he posts he would have to be so delusional that he would be drooling and shouting at trees.

Pauliar is a liar and fraud. There is no evidence to any of his claims about Menzies as he has never been able to provide a jot of evidence. And I have looked through historical records and there is no mention of it anywhere.

However, this level of lying is typical of the pedogreens.

mhaze, in 1962 like Morrison today, Menzies was facing defeat due to his economic mismanagement. He needed to "soft soap" workers to gain votes. Look at his record pre-war and up to 1941.

shonky, nothing to say about the Menzies quote above. For years the LIBERAL PARTY has sanitised history as far as their beloved 'Pig Iron' Bob is concerned.

Shonky, you call "Googling" looking through historical records, what a joke. Tell us what books and publications have you read on Menzies, I have read several, some favourable, some not so. Just this year I read David Kemps favourable account of Menzies.

Paul,

Your historic knowledge really is atrocious, isn't it. For example, you write..."in 1962 like Morrison today, Menzies was facing defeat...". But the election was held in 1961. It was already over. Menzies won. The 1962 budget was about fulfilling the promises made in the election (something else that would confuse you). And part of that fulfillment was aiming for full employment whereas you claim (without evidence) that he wanted 10% unemployment - a claim that you aren't prepared to defend, will now drop, but repeat in a year or three, when you think you can get away with it.

No attempt to defend the unions working on behalf of the German war machine in 1939-1941? Good idea because its indefensible.

As to the pig iron issue, as I've previously tried to educate you on, pig iron isn't used in munitions. And Menzies wasn't working to sell it to Japan which was legal. He was Attorney-General and was working to ensure that the legal contract was fulfilled. I'd also try to explain to you how cutting Japan off from needed imports, as the unions and dills like yourself wanted, was one of the causes of the Pacific War. But I suspect it'd go over your head.

Yes Menzies did express some admiration for what Hitler had done with the economy. If you read (well not you, but someone interested int the truth)...if you read the full quote, you'll see he was praising Hitler's achievements as regards the economy. As did Chamberlain, Churchill, Roosevelt, Stalin, Curtin, Chifley and Caldwell along with millions of others. Menzies also criticised Hitler's anti-Semitism. If you were more versed in history you'd see that its possible to admire the achievements of even evil men, without approving of their aims or methods. That's the adult way of viewing the world.