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Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 15 March 2022 3:55:39 PM
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The following link explains why Russia has invaded Ukraine
and what does Putin want? http://bbc.com/news/world-europe-56720589 It is worth a read. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 16 March 2022 3:26:24 PM
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Putin himself best knows what he wants and why he invaded Ukraine. Nobody, including the BBC asked him; but people who know history and Russia have given several reasons that you don't want listen to.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 16 March 2022 4:51:09 PM
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A former KGB operative Putin has stated that
the collapse of the Soviet Union was one of the greatest disasters of modern history. He's made it quite clear that he does not regard Ukraine as a "real country" nor Ukrainians as separate people. His desire is to return his country to the so-called "glory days" of Soviet Union Superpower. The Ukrainian people voted overwhelmingly in 1991 in a democratic referendum to leave the Soviet Union and become independent. It is understandable why a parasite like Putin wants the Ukraine. Ukraine is a minerals-rich vast land of fertile fields and as Ukraine has moved more towards the West and has tried to step out of Russia's sphere of influence - Putin has sought to draw it back. This crisis and conflict will not end until Putin leaves the Kremlin and Russia finally decides whether it will build a modern nation state or whether it will continue to seek an empire. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 16 March 2022 5:24:49 PM
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Foxy said- "The Ukrainian people voted overwhelmingly in 1991 in a democratic referendum to leave the Soviet Union and become independent. It is understandable why a parasite like Putin wants the Ukraine. Ukraine is a minerals-rich vast land of fertile fields and as Ukraine has moved more towards the West and has tried to step out of Russia's sphere of influence - Putin has sought to draw it back."
Answer- I expect that everything that Foxy said could equally apply to Lincoln in the US Civil War. The South wanted to recede from the Union but Lincoln used the absolutist policy of Afro-American emancipation to justify a power grab. Perhaps he later regretted this policy as indicated by some of his later announcements. Ironic that at this time a Confederate sympathizer assassinated Lincoln- perhaps this was a "controlled opposition"/ "false flag" operation perhaps it was just a timing issue. PS- Thanks Bazz for the information on the Slavs/ slaves and the fact that blonds were also enslaved as part of the early slave trade. Kudos. So I suppose "white guilt can be absolved" due to most cultures participating in the slave trade. This is also true of racism and bigotry- everyone is bigoted- to say less is bigoted- and it's necessary for survival- at any rate we need to look after our own culture not try to interfere with other cultures sovereignty and engaging in cultural appropriation and engineering. Science should be used to inform the people not dictate to them. Humans have been doing terrible things to each other for millions of years- I don't expect this will change soon- those that believe this are perhaps naive or manipulators or both. We should try to hope for the best but prepare for the worst- good fences make good neighbours Posted by Canem Malum, Wednesday, 16 March 2022 11:52:00 PM
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CM,
You can’t be serious. What mineral wealth did the Confederate States have? Their shortage in iron alone helped in their defeat. The Confederates fired the first shots that officially started the war when Fort Sumpter was attacked. It wasn’t until 1863 that the proclamation to free the slaves was announced. Lincoln and Putin are comparable only as opposits. Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 17 March 2022 9:20:12 AM
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had a dislike of those from the west and the south.
The clue to this is in their racial name Slavs, the countries of slaves.
The Balkans, Ukraine and Russia were a major source of slaves in the
Arabic and Roman worlds.
Blondes especially were prized because of the price obtainable.
Such is racial memory.