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What does Putin want?

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Kudos Bazz on the Whisper tech- still working on the modus operandi- but the hardware looks simple enough.

Presumably the Whisper/ MLS raw location data from MH370 is stored somewhere on amateur radio systems and can be used to determine the flight path. Perhaps a needle/ haystack search.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WSPR_(amateur_radio_software)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maidenhead_Locator_System

PS- There was that popular book about the Chinese 15th century fleet "1423" from memory but there was reference to them being flat bottomed ill suited to Ocean voyages. Though you may know something I don't. The dust cover advised the Chinese expedition prompted Marco Polo's expedition along the Silk Road later the same century
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 26 February 2022 12:29:36 AM
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>>"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down your weapons and surrender to avoid bloodshed and unnecessary victims. Otherwise you will be bombed."

"Russian warship, go f- yourself," came the reply.

Anton Herashchenko, an adviser to the interior minister, said Russia then began strikes.<<

http://tinyurl.com/mssyxyv4
Brave or Foolish?
Maybe both.

Probably wont be too long before Putin's elite tank army gets into Kiev.
http://tinyurl.com/ysbjunfp
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 26 February 2022 1:06:27 AM
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Calem, As I said I have not used WSPR or even looked into it.
I know roughly how it works.
From the callsigns the location of the stations can be found on
qrz.com therefore the path is defined as a Great Circle path.
The point along the trace where the disturbance occurs gives the
distance from the transmitter.
There must have been some software written that given a known starting
point and time it searches the database for signals for that time
that has a disturbance at the correct distance from the transmitter
and a receiver on the Great Circle Path.
Quite a trick, I am sure. I suspect that it has not been written by
someone known to us, as I am fairly certain I would have heard about it.
With MH370 the time of the last beacon transmission and location
was known accurately so that would have been the starting point for
the tracking program.
As transmissions ceased the program would have had to search the database for another transmission to use.
Very tricky indeed.
Posted by Bazz, Saturday, 26 February 2022 10:55:22 AM
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The Soviet Regime was a blood-stained machine
Which murdered millions as simply routine
Might is Right was their slogan of choice
Dissenting cries did not have a voice

Putin like Stalin are two of a kind
Yet some in the West to this are still blind
Putin like Stalin will take what he wants
He will kill and destroy those who fight in response

The world can't allow this rampage of terror
Not protecting Ukraine would be a huge error
The world must link hands as others have done
Bring down from within for this to be won

Russians must show they won't tolerate
Going back to the past, to fear and hate
Russians must say, 'We want peace not war'
And proclaim very loudly that war they abhor

The draconian systems must not return
There are lessons there from which we can learn
Putin must be stopped in his tracks
Only then can we in this world relax
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 26 February 2022 11:00:02 AM
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Just heard on News Radio a warning to the West from a Ukrainian academic. Putin could attack any country. While the West has been fussing over climate change, identify politics, perverts and critical race theory, Russian has been preparing for conflict. We need to grow up and pull our fingers out.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 26 February 2022 11:20:11 AM
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Thanks Bazz for your explanation- yes I considered the call signs- the wave amplitude/ direction- etc- I suspect that commercial aircraft don't use amateur radio codes- it sounds as it the scientist that suggested this search strategy had a plan- perhaps using the Mechanical Turk service to convert the meta-data to electronic form.

To understand how Whisper works probably requires a bit more effort on my part. Amateur radio is pretty cool- but the term amateur really does a disservice to them.

I was reading Foxy's poem and was thinking about the syllabic nature of poetry- not an expert myself- but I found the following links that might be useful-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syllabic_verse

http://askinglot.com/do-syllables-matter-in-poetry

http://www.writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis/88/meter.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poetry#Forms
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 26 February 2022 11:24:29 AM
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