Praising or making excuses for dictators when
a conflict that could destabilize Europe is
happening seems like odd behaviour from people
that are supposed to be pro democracy. Russia's
attack on the Ukraine is a global crisis and an
assult on democracy.

Former US President Donald Trump has opted not to root
for democracy. Instead he praised Russian President
Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine as "very savvy."
"Oh that's wonderful." "genius" and "How smart is that?"
How smart is that? Russian aggression likely to result
in the deaths of many - not many people would consider that
so smart.

But then former president Trump took the Russian President's
word over US intelligence agencies at the 2018 Summit
with Putin in Helsinki.

The people of the Ukraine deserve to have people in a
country like ours and the countries of our allies
united in support of Ukraine. It's a shame that some
Trump supporters on this forum still try to excuse
the behaviour of Russia or the actions of former US
President Trump with words like - " you misunderstood,"

"It may not always be clear where the right side of history
is, but in this case and in this moment - it's clearer than
crystal where it's not!"
(Rex Huppke).

Hmmm, there's a thought;
Whisper could be used to see if MH17 was in the vicinity of Putin's
aircraft, just as MH370 has been tracked.
Trouble is I think you would need a time & place to start tracking.

For those not in the know wspr has a waterfall display and a disturbance
or interference shows a defect in the smoothness.
I have not used it myself but I might look for the software.
It is available.

Foxy,

I never claimed that you "misunderstood" rather that you misrepresented.

You berate Trump based on a partial quote which does not represent what he meant at all.

Putin outmanoeuvred Biden just as the Taliban did. Biden has essentially given Putin the green light.

Foxy,

Do you truly not understand that recognising Putin's move as being clever isn't the same as supporting that move? Or is it just the latest case of your inability to admit error when its as plain as the nose on your face?

At first, I did not believe this was a religious war but if you look a picture in - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10550271/I-target-number-one-Zelensky-says-Russian-kill-squads-inside-Kyiv-searching-him.html?ito=push-notification&ci=n-O3zHduPp&cri=WGuofV2QtA&si=25232452&xi=d81fc6b2-3ef9-4105-aa77-25522ec1101c&ai=10550271 You will find the Chechen selected military involved in Muslim prayers in the Forest of Ukraine, before seeking out individual Ukraineians to kill.

Hi individual,
"I looked up President Putin's plane on Google & it shows a 4-engined aircraft but I'm pretty sure it's possible that he also has a large twin engine one at his disposal. MH17 was a 777."

Yes that kind of throws a spanner in the works of that argument.
If you're close enough to see the planes colours surely you would recognise the difference in number of engines as well, one would think.
But Putins plane was in the vicinity at the time, I'm fairly certain of this - both were flying over Ukraine, heading into southern Russian airspace.