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White Feathers For The PM

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Running up to the election, Spectator Australia has awarded four white feathers to Scott Morrison for his cowardice in:

Refusing to remove the ban on nuclear power.

Rushing into net zero by 2050.

Setting up the Covid National Cabinet, undermining his own authority, and refusing to use that authority to condemn the excesses of force by state premiers.

Claiming that the Commonwealth was not imposing mandatory vaccination, but not lifting a finger to rein in states and businesses that are.

Fair or not? The PM still has time to return the feathers.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 17 February 2022 11:01:05 AM
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Why flog a dead man? Isn't he the one that for long months denied us the ability to obtain COVID-19 vaccines (and in fact even now, only allows us be vaccinated with the vaccines that he brings and only subject to his conditions, for which "grace" we are supposed to "thank" him)?

Thousands died as a result and many more will remain crippled for the rest of their lives with long COVID - why is he then not charged with multiple accounts of manslaughter?

In a few months nobody will remember him... perhaps except his family which he traveled to visit while everyone else was in lockdown.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 17 February 2022 1:11:38 PM
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Yuyutsu,

Not dead until votes are counted. He was dying before the last election.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 17 February 2022 2:42:30 PM
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ttbn,
And, who do you propose should succeed him, Albanese ? This really is no time for lame jokes !
Posted by individual, Thursday, 17 February 2022 2:55:59 PM
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Individual

I don't have to propose anyone. If it's not Morrison it will be Albanese as you are well aware. It could have been Dutton if the Liberals had had any sense, but they stuck with the dud.

And I am not joking. Morrison was declared dead before the last election, and he got up and won! I don't think he can do the same this time. In my view, Albanese-Labor doesn’t have to win. The Coalition will lose. That's the way it works: governments always lose when the voters have had enough of them. Oppositions do not win.

The Coalition needs time in opposition to get a new leader, and return to their right of centre role. It's highly
unlikely that they will get two miracles in a row.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 17 February 2022 4:58:14 PM
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Yuyutsu you are completely wrong! Covid did nothing to our overall mortality rate it is a complete non-event. Long Covid will take over as the new go to condition to avoid getting a job.
However the staggering debt we find ourselves and the fascist regulations oppressing us are a whole different deal. Mark my words the pollies now know they can frighten us into giving up our savings and superannuation to pay off the debts they ran up. You my obedient, compliant friend have been well and truly played and should be ashamed of yourself!
Posted by JBowyer, Friday, 18 February 2022 8:45:11 AM
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JBower,

A useful comment.

Australia is over-governed and plagued by micro-managing politicians who simply cannot face losing the trappings of power acquired during the pandemic.

No matter who wins the election, our political class has been encouraged by our docile obedience and acceptance of authoritarianism during their appallingly bad management of Covid. This time we really need to be looking at options to the rubbish we have in parliament now. NOT including the 'Voices of' gang, who are not independent, but an en bloc front for Green Labor. This fact is evidenced in their placing of candidates in Coaltion held seats only.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 18 February 2022 9:04:03 AM
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Dear JBowyer,

I am neither obedient nor compliant, I just don't want this virus, neither for myself nor to give it to others - my motto in this matter is:
"Fight the government as if there is no virus and fight the virus as if there is no government".
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 18 February 2022 11:46:58 AM
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Albanese has this evening at least called the Chinese laser attack as an "outrageous act of aggression".
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 20 February 2022 5:48:40 PM
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Yuyutsu I have to tell you this Covid virus is just another Corona virus. It was not particularly dangerous to start with and is now milder than flu. Natural selection, that happens with viruses too and make them weaker. It was never anything like as dangerous as the filthy, lying pollies and Doctors told you and you believed. From day one I thought we were being turned over and every day since it is more and more obvious. Very old and very sick people will keep dying, as will we all, you and me. What I want is them getting off my back. Wait till they come after our 3 trillion dollar super and our bank accounts because they will. Do not say you were not warned.
Posted by JBowyer, Sunday, 20 February 2022 7:16:47 PM
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Dear JBowyer,

Someone very dear to me died of COVID, she was active, healthy and only 60 years old.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 20 February 2022 9:02:21 PM
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Yuyutsu, my condolence of the death of your friend however my comments stand. They have you frightened and are ramping up the fear all the time. Don't be afraid of what they say the virus is, the greater danger is their actions against us. I will not comment on the death of your friend but I am sure it was all hushed up because as we all know the truth will set us free. Do me a favour and check out what you can as I was in hospital for two weeks last year and saw no evidence of any "Pandemic". I did see foreign countries with death but no way of us checking that, which was why it was shown.
Posted by JBowyer, Sunday, 20 February 2022 10:35:22 PM
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Dear JBowyer,

They cannot frighten me, even if they try because I make my own independent judgements, always did.

Yes, they can and do frighten me about the steps they might take against me and my family should they discover that I or them have COVID, but not about the virus itself.

One danger cannot cancel the other, they both exist and are both dangerous - the virus and the government.

You wrote that you believe that the death of my friend was hushed up: I have no reason to believe that was the case and I understand that her family visited her in hospital, but I know that she deteriorated quickly and was dead in two weeks after having the first symptoms, and that the doctors said that they never encountered such a case before of someone dying so quickly of COVID.
Are you possibly suggesting that her death, and others' was not a natural death due to COVID, but actually a murder? or that perhaps she is not dead at all, but was made to disappear and is secretly held up somewhere in order to try to scare the rest of us? Perhaps they even placed a plastic doll in her coffin instead of her corpse?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 22 February 2022 5:33:59 PM
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Yuyutsu as I said I do not want to comment on the death of a friend of yours but now the official stats say less than 100 people died just of Covid so there it is. You admit to fear of what the government can do? Thank you I am frightened of the fascist scum in charge of us also.
The facts are still Covid was the same as Sars yet here we are in horrendous debt, the economy ruined and us being bashed and shot by the Government. At what stage will you grow a spine and admit your fear and ensure voting out every sitting politician? That is the only answer.
Posted by JBowyer, Tuesday, 22 February 2022 6:09:30 PM
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Dear JBowyer,

I never denied my fear of government, any government. This whole concept as if some people can legitimately govern others without their consent is evil, not just this politician or the other and not just during the pandemic - before and after too. Such behaviour is violence, states and their governments are predators, so it is only natural to fear them.

That said, people ought to be able to defend themselves against diseases. When someone approaches you with a virulent and contagious germ or virus, you may take reasonable steps to stop them coming too near.

The tragedy is that governments forcefully appropriated our abilities to self-defend, allowing only themselves to exercise these natural powers.

Under the circumstances, when the pandemic came, someone should have somehow stopped the virus, and sadly it was government. While I disapprove of the government's very existence as well as of certain particular draconic and totally-immoral and unnecessary measures that it took during its emergency declaration, I do not disapprove of the fact as a whole that it acted to stop/control the virus, in fact I think that in some areas it didn't protect us well enough and should have done more. Obviously the best would be if government never existed so we would be free to protect ourselves.

You mentioned SARS: that virus killed 9.5% of those infected. Fortunately it was not as infectious as COVID because it was only transmitted through short-range coarse droplets, rather than by long-range fine particles like COVID.

The current dominant strain of COVID is not too virulent, but if the virus is allowed to spread, then it could be just a matter of time before variants emerge that are as virulent as SARS, perhaps even more like certain strains of Ebola that kill 90% of those infected. We simply cannot afford this, this virus needs to be eliminated; and sadly again that was started by governments rather than by us; and sadly again, the governments gave in to the virus and never completed that task. Now we still have governments AND still have the virus :-(
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 22 February 2022 11:33:03 PM
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Yuyutsu, back under your bed, swathed in disinfected cloths with anti-septic air conditioning. Then leave me the dickens alone.
This is just another hoax that idiots like you swallow hook, line and sinker. I am fed up with your fear because the vaccines have never, ever worked they are a total nonsense. Corrupt doctors tell you they will make you better and you believe them, what hope is there for you?
Posted by JBowyer, Wednesday, 23 February 2022 6:00:23 PM
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Dear JBowyer,

Indeed, I stay in a way figuratively "under my bed" these days until the pandemic is over. That's the best way to hit back at the politicians, because all they care about is their "economy", so if they do not allow me to properly protect myself from the virus and get my life back then they too will not have their "economy" - let it crash!

I am happy to leave you alone - it was you who approached me to begin with, accusing me of obedience and compliance with government (which we commonly hate). I only responded in order to clear my name of these accusations.

Rather than listening to the government's doctors, I do MORE than they recommend. I would get MORE vaccines, once a month if I could freely obtain them, I wear a KN95 mask everywhere, not just indoors and I avoid many risky places even while nothing in their law prevents me from going there.

I believe that the vaccines do work to a certain extent, but regardless whether or not they do, the problem ought to be solved by closing the borders and practicing a strict lockdown until the virus is completely eliminated - that is the only way we can finally get rid of the government and its horrific emergency declarations.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 23 February 2022 6:28:18 PM
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