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Electronic firearms commercially available in the US

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The “Gauss Rifle”, a solely electronic firearm is on sale to the general public in the US and they are able to be made by anyone with the necessary skills and a craft kit.
This is good or bad news, depending on one’s point of view, there are no restrictions on components and the barrel, normally one of the more complex items to produce, is simply a polycarbonate tube and the bullets (which are just bits of iron/steel rod) are available at your local hardware store.
These weapons can fire either single shots or full automatic and although not very powerful (as yet) they are lethal weapons, being on a par with the lower velocity group of .22 rim fire rifles.
See: ArcLabs.com and YouTube for various videos by Forgottenweapons.com
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 3:25:06 PM
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being on a par with the lower velocity group of .22 rim fire rifles.
Is Mise,
Totally adequate for sport/target shooting & disablement should the unthinkable situation for self-defence against violent aggressors arise.
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 16 February 2022 12:28:27 AM
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Hi Issy,

I'm sure this will be quickly approved by the gun happy mob, Shooters and Hooters Party and their close allies in One Nation, along with the SS Club.
People who have a policy of 5 year olds taking loaded guns to school for "self protection" would have no problem with home made guns to shoot other people.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 16 February 2022 8:32:10 AM
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Individual,
That’s at the moment but technology can advance swiftly.

Paul,
Thank you for that thoughtful contribution.
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 16 February 2022 9:11:17 AM
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Issy, you're welcome as always to my openess and truthfulness.

What about this;

The Remington Arms Co will pay $73 million in damages to 9 families of people killed at the Sandy Hook Elementary School by crazed gunnie Adam Lanza in 2012. Lanza massacred 20 children and 6 adults at the school, using a Remington Bushmaster AR-15 rifle.

Remington are libel as a contributing partner to the actions of Lanza. Remington have blood on their hands, and no amount of money will wash the stain away..

Here in Australia the Federal government estimates gunnies are holding 260,000 illegal firearms.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 16 February 2022 11:25:49 AM
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Paul,
Remington should have held out.
They are as responsible for the deaths as is General Motors for the deliberate killing of a pedestrian by some crazy driving a Chevrolet or a Cadillac.

The lists in the blame game are endless.
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 16 February 2022 12:00:47 PM
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Not so Issy, guns are irresponsibly sold to crazed gunnies whose only intention is to kill people. Therefore the seller/manufacturer is also responsible in part for the actions of the end user. I see why the gun lobby do not want understand that concept it can be very expensive.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 17 February 2022 5:34:29 AM
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Not so, Paul, cars are sold to crazed drivers who only want to kill people, same applies to manufacturers of axes; axe murders are not unknown.
Cyanide is a deadly poison; are the manufacturers also responsible for the use to which it is put?
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 17 February 2022 10:34:11 AM
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Issy, I wouldn't be buying a brand new car just to run down pedestrians, I'd buy you old heap. I can see the headlines now.

"CRAZY MAN IN BRAND NEW $500,000 ROLLER RUNS DOWN PEDESTRIANS"

Nah that won't fly, got anything better?
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 17 February 2022 4:37:30 PM
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The axe and the poison.
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 17 February 2022 7:48:46 PM
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Is Mise

Balderash, one would never run down pedestrians in ones new Rolls Royce, unseemly for one in my position, one must maintain standards ..... Rather I would have James my chauffeur do it on my behalf, it would be considered work, one best leaves that sort of thing to the working class. do you not agree.

Sir Paul; James run down some of the little people.

James; Centainly sir, how many shall I run down.

Sir Paul; I am feeling rather benevolent on this bright and cheery day. 6 will be sufficient..... too many of the little people on the streets, one must maintain standards.

BTW, I've consulted Dr Nincompoop about your headache. He suggests you try the axe first. If that should fail to cure your headache, a large dose of poison will do the trick.

Dr Nincompoop asks, do you have private health insurance, or will you be paying by Medicare? Such good medical advice does not come cheep.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 18 February 2022 1:59:40 PM
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Paul,
You’re about on a par with the nit-wit who tried to sue McDonalds because their hamburgers made him fat.
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 18 February 2022 3:46:24 PM
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That’s at the moment but technology can advance swiftly.
Is Mise,
Yes and, that has led humans to the sad state we're at now. Technology for technology's sake, not technology for need. There's an uncontrollable abundance of utterly unnecessary technology simply because it can be produced & the reliable consumer mentality makes it profitable.
Guns are no different. A .22 or equivalent deters anyone staring at the little bore barrel from taking another step towards it. There's no justifiable reason for anything more powerful to be available to non-military people.
I think it is high time producers are controlled by authorities as to what they can put on the market. People waffle on about Global warming & pollution etc but as soon as a Dollar is to be made they tend to forget their responsibilities to their idealism !
Posted by individual, Saturday, 19 February 2022 10:57:39 PM
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Individual,
For starters the NSW Government doesn’t allow hunting or pest eradication of deer and other large animals with .22 rifles, a larger calibre is necessary for humane kills.
Most jurisdictions around the world have the same requirements.
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 20 February 2022 8:23:42 AM
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Hi Issy,

The only people allowed a gun in society should be professionals whose occupation requires a firearm. Pest control should also be in the hands of professionals, and not weekend Rambo's. Agree?
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 20 February 2022 9:06:51 AM
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Is Mise,
You missed the point.
Paul1405 is right.
.22 is ample for sport & necessary deterring of violent aggressors.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 20 February 2022 10:44:32 AM
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individual,
You, like Paul, miss the point, firearms are no/t normally allowed to be gainst human aggressors

Paul,
The record of ‘professional’ pest controllers using firearms is not good, witness the number of wounded horses by National Park rangers in helicopter culling..

When culling pigs only a fool would use a .22rf, they won’t penetrate the hide of big boars, all they do is make them a bit more angry.
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 20 February 2022 2:29:55 PM
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firearms are no/t normally allowed to be gainst human aggressors
Is Mise,
The Army & Police are using them !
Posted by individual, Sunday, 20 February 2022 4:09:42 PM
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Hi Issy,

I have no problem with people such as yourself who are competent with a gun, applying for a "professional" (pest control) licence for the control of feral pigs etc. What I object to are the amateur weekend Rambo's.

Funny you should say that about 22's. Back in NZ, some of the young bros thought they would kill the beast for Tangi at the Marae. Normally not a problem. Unfortunately the young bros had nothing better than a 22 to "kill" the poor animal with. A clean shot to the head, well the beast took off through the fence and settled in with the neighbours cows. While the bros were trying to retrieve said beast, the white farmer turned up w with his 22. You know the rest.

How often up North in NZ have I seen a "feral" sheep hanging in a Maori's garage, where the truck should be, keep the door closed, you know "flys". All the whanau get a feed. Maori's call cars, trucks.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 20 February 2022 4:32:21 PM
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I know people who, when sober in control of a car are more dangerous to others than target shooters with a .22 or people at 1.0 alcohol level.
re your argument about professional users of high powered firearms goes without saying just like a truck driver needs a more powerful vehicle than an old girl shopping on Sunday mornings.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 20 February 2022 6:18:02 PM
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Kudos Is Mise on bringing up the simple but effective technology of coil guns- also useful for non-weapon applications.
Posted by Canem Malum, Thursday, 24 February 2022 2:15:23 AM
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