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Vaccinated, don't go to Scotland

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Data from Public Health Scotland (PHS) is showing that on a per capita basis not only are the “double jabbed” more likely to catch Omicron than the unvaccinated — but they are more likely to be hospitalized as well. Preliminary data for last week shows a Covid case rate of 11 per 1000 in the unvaccinated group compared to 15 per 1000 for those who had received a booster or third dose, and 25 per 1000 for the double-vaccinated cohort.

Hospitalisation rate was also twice as high in the double-jabbed compared to the unvaccinated – 130 admissions per 100,000 versus 59 per 100,000 – but fell to just 15 per 100,000 in the triple-jabbed.

It also shows that contrary to expectations the 20 to 24 age group are twice as likely to be infected as the next, 15 to 19, & 5 times as likely as all other age groups combined.

It might be time to renew the old advice, "Mothers lock up your daughters" If all these young women weren't running around all over the place, all the young blokes wouldn't be out there chasing them, infecting each other all the time. Certainly better advice than to get vaccinated it would appear since Omicron, & if you've been "fully" vaccinated, go get the booster, you are more at risk than anyone else, until you do, apparently.
Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 15 January 2022 11:32:39 AM
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Considering that vaccination does not prevent infection - only minimises the symptoms and lessens the spread - then having 75% of the population double-vaxxed would naturally result in skewing the number of cases toward that larger group.
Having three out of every four people in that group is statistically significant.

What really matters is the comparative hospitalisation and death rates of the vaxxed and unvaxxed.
Posted by rache, Saturday, 15 January 2022 8:17:49 PM
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"The statement contains an element of truth but ignores critical facts that would give a different impression. We rate this claim Mostly False."

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/jan/04/facebook-posts/omicron-risk-claim-vaccinated-missing-key-context/

I think that the jist of it is that for all covid variants, being unvaccinated gives a worse outcome. Think of it as a fish tank with several strains of covid. When you catch a strain you are fished out of the tank. The vaccinated are less likely to catch strains other than omicron, but with a booster your immune system is much better at fighting covid of any type.

I'm sure that the booster made my neuralgia play up a bit, but it would have been silly of me not to have it.
Posted by Fester, Saturday, 15 January 2022 9:20:01 PM
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Perhaps you missed that these numbers were per 100,000 of the population, so currently in Scotland, the double vaccinated are more likely to get Omicron, & are more likely to need hospitalisation.

That is a higher percentage of double vaccinated are being infected & need hospital treatment than the unvaccinated.
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 16 January 2022 12:06:26 AM
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Interesting information Hasbeen. Thanks.
Posted by Canem Malum, Sunday, 16 January 2022 3:38:52 AM
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Were there differences between the populations, such as age distribution and risk status? People at higher risk might be more likely to get vaccinated. The devil is in the detail.
Posted by Fester, Sunday, 16 January 2022 4:58:01 AM
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