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Foxy
Bidens report from all polls.
42.5% approve
52.1% dissaprove
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/
Donald Trump
44.2% approve at the same period of his presidency
And Donald had no Media support.
Posted by Josephus, Monday, 17 January 2022 3:26:45 PM
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Joe Biden given 4 pinocchios for lieing.
http://patriotpowerednews.com/biden-awarded-four-pinocchios-for-false-claim-he-was-arrested/
Posted by Josephus, Monday, 17 January 2022 3:59:46 PM
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Josephus,

My figures come from the latest Reuters/Ipsos polls
conducted natio0nally now and at other times. They differ
to yours. They clearly state that at the same time in
Donald Trump's presidency - we're told that 39% of
Americans approved of his performance in office while 56%
disapproved.

Whereas according to the national poll conducted Jan 12-13
found that 45% of US adults approved of Biden's
performance in office. 50% disapproved and the rest were
not sure. Biden's approval rating numbers have hovered
below 50% since August.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 17 January 2022 4:11:38 PM
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Approval ratings have very little to do with the worth of anybody. They are a measure of how popular the person is in with the public at a particular time.

https://learning.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/19/aug-19-1934-german-voters-approve-hitler-as-fuhrer/

On Aug. 19, 1934, the German public voted 90 percent in favor of Chancellor Adolf Hitler becoming Führer und Reichskanzler (“leader and chancellor”), a new title created after the death of President Paul von Hindenburg earlier in the month.
Posted by david f, Monday, 17 January 2022 5:08:54 PM
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Polling is a tool. It has become important in our
democracy. There's a difference between the idea that
the people should rule and the use of polls to determine
public policy or manipulate the people's will.

Public opinion is a vital part of the political process.
Polling identifies issues for resolution. It brings
views into political debate and it helps choose political
candidates and gives policy makers some idea of what the
voters want.

Of course things can change overnight. People don't always
tell the truth in polls. Thingss need to be taken in the
context of the time and the influences at play. It also depends
on the questions asked and the way that they are asked.
You don't always get an accurate picture.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 17 January 2022 5:39:22 PM
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Dear Banjo,

«No, Yuyutsu, Bertrand Russell would never have blamed “the Creator for doing a bad job” because he did not believe in the god hypothesis :»

Fine, then why did he think that the world has a problem?
Were the galaxies moving too fast or too slow?

It seems that Mr. Russell did not like certain human/societal behaviours, so when he became frustrated about it, he projected his self-made problem on the world at large.

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Dear Is Mise,

«Anarchy can only exist in its negative form, human nature will see to that..»

Well, if that's what humans deserve then that is what they will get.
As it stands, humans seem to deserve even worse because they get governments to oppress them.

But possibly you disagree, you may possibly consider oppression to be relatively more convenient than the negative form of anarchy.

Even then, we ought to base our actions on moral principles rather than on convenience. Accepting and cooperating with states/governments as they currently exist, means personally participating in their violence, whereas in suffering the consequences of negative anarchy you can remain passive and not take part in the evil of others.

Human nature is derived from animal nature.
I believe that we can rise above it.
And if we don't, then it really doesn't matter if humans become extinct.

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Dear David,

«Anarchy in sense 2 eliminates ALL governmental decisions. People join together in groups to accomplish what needs to be accomplished. There are no governmental decisions as there is no government. Anarchy is not a form of government.»

Still, nothing prevents people from forming legitimate governments (that of course wouldn't be anarchy), so long as it is consensual and such governments only govern their own group, not others who never agreed to join it. This likely requires the groups to be small enough so their members have more in common.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 17 January 2022 6:14:29 PM
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