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Too Catholic, Too Many Kids To Be Premier

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Yes by all means lets ignore the calls from business
groups and aged care and hospital service providers
who say they are desperate for staff.

Lets ignore the fact that migration is vital for business
and the economy. Lets not hear the message. Lets simply
brush aside that fact that without imported skilled labour
most of Australia's biggest infrastructure and nation-building
projects will move offshore.

Lets also ignore the fact that millions of baby boomers
head into retirement. Lets forget that even before the pandemic
we've had growing skill shortages as our population ages.

Let this country go back to the cultural backwater that it
once was! Fortunately most Australians don't think that way.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 17 October 2021 12:15:44 PM
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Then iet’s do what most Arab countries, particularly Saudi Arabia do, contract labour for two years at a time and no hope of settlement or citizenship; works for them, no labour shortages and no migration.
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 17 October 2021 2:07:31 PM
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Is Mise,

I can't believe that you actually believe in doing
what you've just suggested.

Saudi Arabia has one of the most abusive systems in
the region and millions of workers are entirely at their
employers' mercy.

Millions of migrant workers fill manual, clerical, and
service jobs in Saudi Arabia constituting more than
80% of the private sector workforce.

They are governed by an abusive system that gives their
employer excessive power over their mobility and legal
status in the country. The system underpins migrant
workers' vulnerability to a wide range of abuses from
passport confiscation to delayed wages and forced labour
leaving migrant workers at high risk of abuse.

That is not what we want in Australia.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 17 October 2021 5:27:56 PM
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Foxy,
We don’t have to be ruthless like the Saudis; fair wages based on Australian award rates and the protection of the law, but no settlement rights.
Our labour shortages would be over and there’d be a queue, Australia would be much preferred over Saudi Arabia et al.
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 18 October 2021 7:16:00 PM
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Lets ignore the fact that- young British Australian people find it hard to get their first job in British Australia- their own country- yet we are importing people- rather than training them.

Lets ignore the fact that- businesses talk about free trade when it suits them- what ever the market price is for a service- but talks about gaming and distorting the market when it doesn't.

Lets ignore the fact that- communism and corporates are on the same side on the immigrant workers issue.

I don't believe that- migration is vital for business
and the economy- this is a convenient piece of propaganda.

Foxy said- Let this country go back to the cultural backwater that it
once was!

Answer- How does one define "cultural backwater"? Is it really desirable to be the opposite of "cultural backwater". It's probably offensive that Foxy compares Australia's history and culture as the equivalent of a quiet pond filled with poisonous blue green algae- probably something that Foxy feels should be burnt out with a white hot poker- similar to her views on British Australia. I suppose that communists and globalists try their genocidal policies against British Australian's under cover of some tenuous guise. I guess that the globalists will tie us up and gag us and run us over with their "racist anti-racism".
Posted by Canem Malum, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 12:05:36 PM
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Foxy said- "millions of baby boomers
head into retirement." (and we need immigration to take care of them)

Answer- This is similar to saying that we should give drugs to addicts because they'll be in pain if we don't. Some say "two wrongs don't make a right". Why do people feel that having children is problematic- is it due to our "advanced" family court/ law situation- is it due to our "free" education system. It seems to me that people and children become devalued in mass societies. The problems in western society are probably not going to be fixed by just bringing more people in- especially large numbers from vastly different cultures.

Without immigration we will find other ways to deal with our problems- the baby boomers lived in a time of growth but learned by some suffering- they can adapt to living without immigration. At least they will die with their own kind. I can only hope- as Socrates said I'd prefer to die now in my own community rather than live and die in a foreign land.

We can only grow so much- we need to learn to live with what we have- and try to help others in other parts of the world do the same.
Posted by Canem Malum, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 12:06:36 PM
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