The Swastika was stolen by the Nazis and is an ancient religious symbol, still used by millions of people, to ban it is to shew ignorance and intolerance of others’ deeply held beliefs.

The following link explains the ancient symbol:

http://bbc.com/news/magazine-29644591

Australian federal police support legislation banning
the extremist symbol and majority of Australians
apparently agree according to a survey undertaken by
the Social Research Centre. The Head of ASIO Mike
Burgess stated that the ideology motivated
terrorism that the symbol has come to represent - which
includes right-wing extremism under the spy agency's
definitions now comprises 40% of its counter-terrorism
work.

Apparently the Victorian Parliament's law and social
affairs committee has recommended that the state should
bring in laws banning the Nazi symbol from being
publicly displayed.

It may have had different meanings in the past - but not
any more to most people.

Kudos AC.

My understanding is the NZ Shooter wasn't really radicalized by far right groups in Australia per se- he gives a list of his motivations in his manifesto. I believe that the Norway Shooter manifesto was mentioned.

My understanding of Australian Nationalist groups is that they are explicitly anti-aggression- they don't see the point in challenging the police. However they will defend themselves. On the other hand Antifa create conflict by turning up and acting aggressively at nominally right wing talks. I saw a movie of antifa activists jumping on stage and shaking buses with attendees on board. A Hong Kong protester in Sydney got a Quick Lime Milkshake in his face and had to go to hospital.

Most of the terrorist and intelligence concerns by ASIO are Islam and foreign government actor related. In fact they have warned government and they haven't listened. It could be said that the rise in the so called Far Right National Socialists (as AC has related) are a reaction to a lack of action by government to threats.

Usually when understanding someones point of view I ask "why" they believe what they do rather than just "what".

I'm not completely across this issue but these young men are loyal to Australia- perhaps more loyal than most of us.

I believe they have made some effort to point their point across in the media for the community to judge them but the media have shut them down- the media don't really need to infiltrate their organization as it freely says what it believes.

Every community has there own view of politics- whether it is the Hebrews, the Muslims, the Communists, the Business Community, the British Australian Traditionalists, etc, etc. All of them act in their own interest- to discredit and destroy the other side sometimes by fair or foul means. Sometimes as within the Business Community the Hebrew community has perhaps strong roots as the Communists have within the Labor and Greens and Union movements. Strangely the Communists have at times labelled the Business Community as Nazi's it's interesting when the Business Community member is also Jewish.

This is where the Communists say that a Jewish person can identify as a Nazi- fascinating.

At the end of the day don't believe the TV, Facebook, or Communists.

What right do the Communist Media have to act as Judge for us?

Personally I'm happy for people to believe what they like as long as they don't advocate aggressive violence (rather than defensive violence). They need to think for themselves for their survival. Violence comes in many forms and of course the biggest purveyer of violence is usually the government- but that's sometimes for the best.

The main stream media seemingly has become increasingly irrelevant to the masses and this space has become occupied by Communist cranks. Sadly legislators still apparently treat the main stream media as relevant and point to it to justify their crazy positions

Poor old Foxy hasn't heard Chanel 9 referred to as the ABC with advertisements because of its Leftist leanings.

Australia is a rule of law country. People are entitled to congregate as long as the don't break any laws. I find people calling themselves Nazis quite pathetic; but they are entitled to make fools of themselves as long as they don't break the law. After all, the extreme left Greens are allowed to operate in Australia.

ASIO keeps an eye on many groups. That's its job. Hell, one of my harmless lefty brothers had, and might still have, a file with them. He certainly had one with the old Special Branch and the then Commonwealth Police.