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Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 10:06:02 AM
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Shadowminister,
Or should I say shallowminister? There really is very little of substance to you is there. You know so little and so are forced to rely on things like the anti-Semitic slur to engage in any sort of argument on this issue. The Gaza borders are not recognised internationally at all you clown. They are regarded as defacto, there in fact but not legally recognised. And now you are calling Einstein anti-Semitic. He along with other Jews signed a letter to the NY Times regarding Begin's Herut Party: “a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties.” Begin of course later became PM and Herut joined Likud, the current ruling party. You are purely using the anti-Semitic slur to bolster a weak right wing ideology which you slavishly follow. Are you aware of just how pathetic that is? Dear mhaze, While shadowminister may be more direct in employing charges of anti-semiticism in his cancel culture efforts it is exactly what you are doing as well. The deputy head of the Israeli army makes a comparison with the behaviour of the NAZIs but you have nothing to say about it. Yet you are denouncing anyone else doing it. Why do you think that is? The piece in Haaretz directly uses the word ghetto but that in turn is ignored by you. Also very few people would argue there was ethnic cleansing of Palestine during the 1948 war. Again, the cases do not have to completely align for comparisons to be justified and you know that. So why are you being so obstinate about this? Actually useless question as we both know, but that doesn't prevent me from pointing out it out. I am certain that without the oversight by Israel's main donor nation the US, the actions of the Israelis toward the Palestinians would have been a lot worse. There seems to be a whole lot of Jewish people and publications who make comparisons between the actions of the NAZIs and Israel. It is perfectly legitimate. Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 10:50:28 AM
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SR,
I'm well aware of how pathetic you are. The recognised borders of Israel are along the 1949 armistice lines or pre 1967 war or are you idiotic enough to try and claim that Israel's existence is not recognised? I have given you the internationally recognised definitions of antisemitism and I reserve the right to call you out when you are being antisemitic. There are very few people that would dispute that the Arabs ethnically cleansed Jews from all Arab lands most of whom went to Israel. Posted by shadowminister, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 11:41:57 AM
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shadow minister,
The following link is just one of many on the web. Ever heard of Nakba Day? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus Look up Nakba Day on the web. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 8:46:08 PM
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Foxy,
I am aware of the Nakba but with 850 000 Jews being expelled from Arab countries and most having all their worldly possession confiscated not counting those Jews expelled without compensation from East Jerusalem. Also at roughly the same time, Russia annexed half of Finland and Poland and expelled the locals without compensation in 1945. Are you seriously suggesting that Russia should give up this land with compensation? "The Jewish exodus from Arab and Muslim countries, or Jewish exodus from Arab countries, was the departure, flight, expulsion, evacuation and migration of 850,000 Jews, primarily of Sephardi and Mizrahi background, from Arab countries and the Muslim world, mainly from 1948 to the early 1970s. The last major migration wave took place from Iran in 1979–80, as a consequence of the Iranian Revolution." Posted by shadowminister, Wednesday, 4 August 2021 1:55:41 PM
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From the Australian:
"The most serious concern with the tweets about Israel and Jews by Julian Burnside and his wife is not that they were deeply offensive. Rather, their actions seem to be indicative of a growing anti-Semitism from the green-left in Australia. This apparent anti-Semitism is open, transparent and even seen as a signal of virtue among some. Last week, Burnside tweeted a post where he equated Israel’s treatment of Palestinians with the actions of Nazi Germany. Burnside is highly educated and knows full well that Israel has no policy of exterminating Arabs, as the Nazis did in relation to the Jews. Twenty per cent of the Israeli population is Arab and has full voting rights. Arabs serve in Israel’s courts, its parliament and its defence force. No doubt these comments won the applause of left-wing followers on Twitter." Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 5 August 2021 3:23:31 AM
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my brother travelling in Israel employed a Palistian Taxi Driver for the day to show him the historical sited of Israel.