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Anti semitism and the Greens

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Foxy,

Even if all that were true - and most of the things on the list are rubbish or vast exaggeration - but even it were all true, it's still a million miles from what happened in the Holocaust.

One has to have a special hatred for the Jewish state to think otherwise.

BTW, when I tried to raise the issue of the actual holocaust happening in west China, you refused to acknowledge or discuss it, and tried hard to subvert the discussion. So you'll appreciate I doubt your sincerity in regards to this.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 2 August 2021 4:05:50 PM
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Even Jews who dare to criticize the Israeli government are called "self-hating Jews". If I criticize or comment on the actions of the Israeli government, please convince me that I am wrong by using facts, logical argument and reason. Not that old, worn, hackneyed, easy go-to cliche that I am being antisemitic.
Posted by Aries54, Monday, 2 August 2021 4:27:24 PM
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Or as ttbn would have it, even worse than antisemitic - a greenie. shock horror.
Posted by Aries54, Monday, 2 August 2021 4:29:00 PM
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Dear mhaze,

And why didn't you use the term Palestinians?

Palestinians in Israel get to vote....just like Jews in Nazi Germany.
Palestinians in Israel get to sit in parliament....just like Jews in Nazi Germany.
Palestinians in Israel get to use schools, hospitals, transport etc alongside the rest of the community.....just like Jews in Nazi Germany.
Palestinians outside Israel are regularly bought to Israel for medical attention.....just like Jews in Nazi Germany.
Palestinians in Gaza have a homeland given to them by Israel.....just like Jews in Nazi Germany.
Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank are allowed to elect and appoint their own government....just like Jews in Nazi Germany.

Actually some of them do hold true. For instance it was a group of 24 Jewish Commissioners, the Judenrat, who ran the Warsaw Ghetto for instance.

“On the orders of Warsaw District Governor, Ludwig Fischer, the Ghetto wall construction started on April 1, 1940, circling the area of Warsaw inhabited predominantly by Jews. The work was supervised by the Warsaw Judenrat.”
Wikipedia

Or this:

“The Germans closed the Warsaw Ghetto to the outside world on November 15, 1940. The wall around it was 3 m (9.8 ft) high and topped with barbed wire. Escapees were shot on sight. German policemen from Battalion 61 used to hold victory parties on the days when a large number of prisoners were shot at the ghetto fence.”
Wikipedia

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/15/world/middleeast/israelis-watch-bombs-drop-on-gaza-from-front-row-seats.html

While Gaza is not at this stage deemed to be another Warsaw even some writers in Israeli newspapers refer to it as a ghetto, and what occurs there as ghetto uprisings, obviously referencing Warsaw.

“Gaza is a ghetto and what’s happening in the south is a ghetto uprising. There's no other way to describe it. You can make claims against Hamas but you can’t make any claims against Gaza. It’s fighting for its freedom and no struggle is more just than its struggle, and Hamas is its leader.”
http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-the-gaza-ghetto-uprising-1.7197814

If it walks like a duck...
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 2 August 2021 4:59:55 PM
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SR asks: "And why didn't you use the term Palestinians?"

Because I like to be accurate.

So now Gaza is the analogous to the Warsaw ghetto?

The leadership in the ghetto was appointed by the Nazis and did their bidding. The leadership in Gaza?

Somewhere around 250,000 Jews were taken out of the ghetto and taken to Treblinka. Do I need to explain what happened there? How many Gazans have been taken off to the be exterminated?

Clutching at straws is one thing and something you're rather accomplished at. But clutching at thin air?
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 2 August 2021 6:38:28 PM
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What is the migration rate of Palestinians to Muslim countries?
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 2 August 2021 6:57:09 PM
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