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Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 2 August 2021 5:42:23 AM
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See my post on this 31/7/21. Let's see if anyone except the Green number will respond this time.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 2 August 2021 9:07:06 AM
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Shadow Minister,
How does Julian Burnside's critique of Israel's policies towards the Palestinians equate as anti-Semitism? As a human rights advocate surely Mr Burnside should be free to express his opinion on this matter and not be tarred with the anti-Semitic brush? This seems like just another attempt to silence any critics of Israeli policies as Antony Lowenstein and so many others can attest when they proceeded to criticize Israel's policies. Posted by Foxy, Monday, 2 August 2021 10:42:05 AM
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cont'd ...
Shadow Minister, Israel commits war crimes in Gaza and maintains a regime recently recognized by Human Rights Watch as apartheid. Of course it is vital to fight genuine anti-Semitism. However, this is just another attempt to defame individuals like Julian Burnside and others, and even organizations who support human rights for Palestinians and who resist the Israeli apartheid regime as anti-Semitic - even if these individuals and organizations are themselves Jewish. Bad show - but usual Zionist tactics. Don't fall for them. Posted by Foxy, Monday, 2 August 2021 11:04:47 AM
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Greens hate everybody; humans are a threat to their imaginary pristine environment. How the 8% of them think that they can survive without the rest of us does not enter their fevered minds. Slavery, perhaps, because the environment is the only thing differentiating them from the Chinese Communist Party.
Jews are an easy target for the Greens, because more people than not are anti-Semitic Posted by ttbn, Monday, 2 August 2021 11:12:58 AM
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Israel was ranked as the world's 8th strongest power
on the basis of three things: 1) Military might. 2) International influemce. (and pay attention this is what was said) - 3) International alliances. This is what Netanyahu told the Likud Knesset caucus: " It wasn't I who chose to say that. They ranked us according to our international power and our international alliances," he said. Israel an easy target? Hardly. Posted by Foxy, Monday, 2 August 2021 11:32:09 AM
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Of course some of the Arab world kep complaining to the UN of Israeli War crimes and human rights violations just like they do of our soldiers. They do not want Israel to exist nor their claim to Jerusalem. Our Media only give Palistian reports on issues affecting Palestine and is not balanced reporting. I have relatives living in Israel and there are many Palistinians employed in Israel and they respect each other. However the Hamas news reporting coming out of Palestine is based in hate for Israel and the Greens listen to these reports.
Posted by Josephus, Monday, 2 August 2021 11:41:16 AM
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Someone referring to Burnside made the quip that "some of the best educated in our midst also sometimes seem the most unwise".
It depends on what 'being educated' means in the true sense, but in Burnside's case, I believe it has nothing to do with a lack of wisdom, but sheer Green viciousness. Burnside's missus added to the calumny by insulting Josh Freydenberg as "just a Hungarian, just a Liberal" - deciding to avoid "just a Jew" Posted by ttbn, Monday, 2 August 2021 12:22:54 PM
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Shadowminister,
You constantly drag out the anti-semetic slur to attack others constantly. You misuse it completely and massively disrespect Holocaust victims by doing so. Your obvious disregard for history is a cancer and belittles everything you say. Comparisons between the actions of the Israeli Government along with the IDF and Nazi Germany are legitimate and often made even by prominent Israeli figures. The Israeli army's deputy chief of staff didn't hold back in a Holocaust Memorial speech in 2014: "It's scary to see horrifying developments that took place in Europe begin to unfold here," https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/IDF-general-in-bombshell-speech-Israel-today-shows-signs-of-1930s-Germany-453142 Are you now going to call him a 'self hating Jew'? Dear Josephus, What a load of crock. Are you just that invested in supporting Israel at any cost that you can see no issue with how they have dealt with the Palestinians, no comment on the land theft which is now occurring on a daily basis, no comment of the rampant settler violence and no comment on the apartheid which is such a feature of Israel? Pathetic. Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 2 August 2021 12:59:57 PM
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Good work Steele. Kudos!
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 2 August 2021 1:09:10 PM
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Arabs in Israel get to vote....just like Jews in Nazi Germany.
Arabs in Israel get to sit in parliament....just like Jews in Nazi Germany. Arabs in Israel get to use schools, hospitals, transport etc alongside the rest of the community.....just like Jews in Nazi Germany. Arabs outside Israel are regularly bought to Israel for medical attention.....just like Jews in Nazi Germany. Arabs in Gaza have a homeland given to them by Israel.....just like Jews in Nazi Germany. Arabs in Gaza and the West Bank are allowed to elect and appoint their own government....just like Jews in Nazi Germany. Yeah its exactly like the Holocaust. Posted by mhaze, Monday, 2 August 2021 1:42:54 PM
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What Israel does:
1) Imposes institutionalized discrimination against Palestinians living under its rule in Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT). 2) Israel has displaced hundred of Palestinians in Israel and the occupied West Bank including East Jerusalem as a result of home demolitions and imposition of other coercive measures. 3) Israeli forces use excessive force during its law enforcement activities in the Occupied Palestinian Territories. 4) Israeli forces routinely kill Palestinians, including children in the Occupied Palestinian Territories. Many killed are unlawfully killed posing no imminent threat. 5) Israel maintains its illegal blockade in the Gaza Strip subjecting its residents to collective punishment and deepening the humanitarian crisis there. 6) Israel restricts freedom of movement of Palestinians in the Occupied Palestinian Territories through checkpoints and blockades. 7) The Israeli authorities arbitrarily detain thousands of Palestinians from the Occupied Palestinian Territories holding them without charge or trial. 8) Torture and other ill treatments of detainees including children are committed with impunity. 9) The Israeli authorities target human rights defenders, journalists, and others who criticize Israel's occupation of the West Bank, Gaza Strip and Syrian Golan Heights. 10) Violence against women persists especially Palestinian citizens of Israel. 11) Israeli authorities deny asylum seekers access to a fair or prompt refugee status. Amnesty International compiled this list. Posted by Foxy, Monday, 2 August 2021 3:56:32 PM
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Foxy,
Even if all that were true - and most of the things on the list are rubbish or vast exaggeration - but even it were all true, it's still a million miles from what happened in the Holocaust. One has to have a special hatred for the Jewish state to think otherwise. BTW, when I tried to raise the issue of the actual holocaust happening in west China, you refused to acknowledge or discuss it, and tried hard to subvert the discussion. So you'll appreciate I doubt your sincerity in regards to this. Posted by mhaze, Monday, 2 August 2021 4:05:50 PM
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Even Jews who dare to criticize the Israeli government are called "self-hating Jews". If I criticize or comment on the actions of the Israeli government, please convince me that I am wrong by using facts, logical argument and reason. Not that old, worn, hackneyed, easy go-to cliche that I am being antisemitic.
Posted by Aries54, Monday, 2 August 2021 4:27:24 PM
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Or as ttbn would have it, even worse than antisemitic - a greenie. shock horror.
Posted by Aries54, Monday, 2 August 2021 4:29:00 PM
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Dear mhaze,
And why didn't you use the term Palestinians? Palestinians in Israel get to vote....just like Jews in Nazi Germany. Palestinians in Israel get to sit in parliament....just like Jews in Nazi Germany. Palestinians in Israel get to use schools, hospitals, transport etc alongside the rest of the community.....just like Jews in Nazi Germany. Palestinians outside Israel are regularly bought to Israel for medical attention.....just like Jews in Nazi Germany. Palestinians in Gaza have a homeland given to them by Israel.....just like Jews in Nazi Germany. Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank are allowed to elect and appoint their own government....just like Jews in Nazi Germany. Actually some of them do hold true. For instance it was a group of 24 Jewish Commissioners, the Judenrat, who ran the Warsaw Ghetto for instance. “On the orders of Warsaw District Governor, Ludwig Fischer, the Ghetto wall construction started on April 1, 1940, circling the area of Warsaw inhabited predominantly by Jews. The work was supervised by the Warsaw Judenrat.” Wikipedia Or this: “The Germans closed the Warsaw Ghetto to the outside world on November 15, 1940. The wall around it was 3 m (9.8 ft) high and topped with barbed wire. Escapees were shot on sight. German policemen from Battalion 61 used to hold victory parties on the days when a large number of prisoners were shot at the ghetto fence.” Wikipedia http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/15/world/middleeast/israelis-watch-bombs-drop-on-gaza-from-front-row-seats.html While Gaza is not at this stage deemed to be another Warsaw even some writers in Israeli newspapers refer to it as a ghetto, and what occurs there as ghetto uprisings, obviously referencing Warsaw. “Gaza is a ghetto and what’s happening in the south is a ghetto uprising. There's no other way to describe it. You can make claims against Hamas but you can’t make any claims against Gaza. It’s fighting for its freedom and no struggle is more just than its struggle, and Hamas is its leader.” http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-the-gaza-ghetto-uprising-1.7197814 If it walks like a duck... Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 2 August 2021 4:59:55 PM
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SR asks: "And why didn't you use the term Palestinians?"
Because I like to be accurate. So now Gaza is the analogous to the Warsaw ghetto? The leadership in the ghetto was appointed by the Nazis and did their bidding. The leadership in Gaza? Somewhere around 250,000 Jews were taken out of the ghetto and taken to Treblinka. Do I need to explain what happened there? How many Gazans have been taken off to the be exterminated? Clutching at straws is one thing and something you're rather accomplished at. But clutching at thin air? Posted by mhaze, Monday, 2 August 2021 6:38:28 PM
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What is the migration rate of Palestinians to Muslim countries?
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 2 August 2021 6:57:09 PM
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Why are the Forums far right so touchy when anyone makes references to their Nazi base. ttbn not long back admitted membership of an extreme far right political party, what was their base? As for Julian Burnside he is stating what is obvious, read SR's last post, I have no problem with Burnside, if some Jewish fanatics wants to call it anti-Semitism so be it. As for mentioning the 'Holocaust' and ruffling the sensibilities of some Israelis, don't mention Japanese atrocities committed in WWII, because you might offend the sensibilities of a minority of Japanese. As for making comparisons, if the glove fits, wear it.
Many Israelis are horrified and ashamed of their governments actions against the innocent Palestinian people. Many Israelis have spoken out against their hard right governments attempts at ethnic cleansing. Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 2 August 2021 7:06:01 PM
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Dear mhaze,
So unless every instance of the NAZI treatment of the ghetto lines up directly with those of the IDF and Gaza no comparisons can be made? Don't be daft. “The ghetto was segregated from the rest of the population by a wall and sealed on 15 November 1940. Jewish policemen guarded the inside of the wall, and Nazi and Polish officers patrolled the outside. Only those with special permits could leave the ghetto.” And this is different from Gaza how? “Rations were initially set at approximately 800 calories a day – less than half of the daily recommended allowance for women (2000 calories per day) and men (2500 calories per day). The rations consisted of bread, potatoes, and ersatz fat.” http://www.theholocaustexplained.org/the-camps/the-warsaw-ghetto-a-case-study/conditions-inside-the-warsaw-ghetto/ Has food to Gaza ever been rationed to help force compliance? Well yes. http://www.irishtimes.com/news/israel-sets-calorie-limit-for-gaza-residents-1.553966 Calls to expel the Israeli ambassador to Ireland in 2014 elicited this response from him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggYcE60dlmQ&ab_channel=NowThisNews At least he got called out on it. Waving the anti-Semite flag around just to deflect criticism has become normalised. It is one of the most potent forms of cancel culture going and you and shadowminister are employing it without even a blush. Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 2 August 2021 7:23:15 PM
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Israel has another issue too, reflected in a conversation of the past with a Turkish fellow mid '90s who was Jewish and would not consider Tel Aviv as a study destination because then he thought the Israeli govt. was 'fascist'.
Earlier, old secular Jewish hippies who did the kibbutz thing in the '70s also observed the immigration, before Soviet types, of what were known as 'American born agains' demanding more stronger political religious policies favouring not just Jews but for more conservative or fundamental believers. Nowadays is the issue of middle aged and younger more moderate and secular Jews emigrating to the US, EU etc. Posted by Andras Smith, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 12:06:01 AM
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Foxy,
What Burnside said was anti-semitic in just about every definition of the word. To make it worse Burnside has done this before, apologised unreservedly, promised never to do it again and then just did it again. Burnside's comments were not just factually deeply wrong but highly offensive to the point of being anti-semitic hate speech. HRW is an activist NGO that has been criticised for having a deep-seated ideological bias against Israel: "Human Rights Watch is a powerful NGO, with a massive budget, close links to Western governments, and significant influence in international institutions. Its publications reflect the absence of professional standards, research methodologies, and military and legal expertise, as well as a deep-seated ideological bias against Israel." Burnside's comments were not just factually deeply wrong but highly offensive given the past. Posted by shadowminister, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 5:23:14 AM
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SR,
As a raging anti-semite, you are constantly trying to justify your bigotry. Gaza's borders with Israel are those recognised internationally. Any similarity with a ghetto is entirely due to the despotic Hamas trying to kill as many Jews as possible and any "war crimes" committed by Israel pale into comparison to those committed by Hamas against Israel and Gazans. Some of the actions deemed anti semitic: Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavour. Applying double standards by requiring of it a behaviour not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation. Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis. Posted by shadowminister, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 5:57:32 AM
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SR,
Just because some aspects of what's happening in Israel appear to be similar to what happened in Nazi Germany doesn't make them equal. Oh they built a wall!! So is every wall builder a Nazi? During Kristallnacht the Nazis smashed the windows of Jewish businesses. During the recent so-called antifa riots the windows of shops across the US were smashed. Does that mean the rioters were Nazis? What happened in Nazi Germany and the regions they controlled was genocide of a peoples. Comparing that to what's happening in Gaza is bizarre and smacks of desperation. When Israelis start rounding up Gazans by the thousands and transporting them on cattle cars, you'll have a case. That you have to make these things up shows just how gentle the Israelis have been toward a peoples that are trying to destroy them. "Waving the anti-Semite flag around just to deflect criticism has become normalised. It is one of the most potent forms of cancel culture going and you and shadowminister are employing it without even a blush." I haven't used the term at all in this thread. If I was dealing with someone with more backbone I'd ask for an acknowledgement of that fact, but alas.... Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 10:03:45 AM
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Of course Foxy does believe Israel must not have border checks on Palistinians and their movements in Israel. However Israel realizes Palistinians are a security threat to the cotizens of Isreal who want them dead and removed from the land.
my brother travelling in Israel employed a Palistian Taxi Driver for the day to show him the historical sited of Israel. Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 10:06:02 AM
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Shadowminister,
Or should I say shallowminister? There really is very little of substance to you is there. You know so little and so are forced to rely on things like the anti-Semitic slur to engage in any sort of argument on this issue. The Gaza borders are not recognised internationally at all you clown. They are regarded as defacto, there in fact but not legally recognised. And now you are calling Einstein anti-Semitic. He along with other Jews signed a letter to the NY Times regarding Begin's Herut Party: “a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties.” Begin of course later became PM and Herut joined Likud, the current ruling party. You are purely using the anti-Semitic slur to bolster a weak right wing ideology which you slavishly follow. Are you aware of just how pathetic that is? Dear mhaze, While shadowminister may be more direct in employing charges of anti-semiticism in his cancel culture efforts it is exactly what you are doing as well. The deputy head of the Israeli army makes a comparison with the behaviour of the NAZIs but you have nothing to say about it. Yet you are denouncing anyone else doing it. Why do you think that is? The piece in Haaretz directly uses the word ghetto but that in turn is ignored by you. Also very few people would argue there was ethnic cleansing of Palestine during the 1948 war. Again, the cases do not have to completely align for comparisons to be justified and you know that. So why are you being so obstinate about this? Actually useless question as we both know, but that doesn't prevent me from pointing out it out. I am certain that without the oversight by Israel's main donor nation the US, the actions of the Israelis toward the Palestinians would have been a lot worse. There seems to be a whole lot of Jewish people and publications who make comparisons between the actions of the NAZIs and Israel. It is perfectly legitimate. Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 10:50:28 AM
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SR,
I'm well aware of how pathetic you are. The recognised borders of Israel are along the 1949 armistice lines or pre 1967 war or are you idiotic enough to try and claim that Israel's existence is not recognised? I have given you the internationally recognised definitions of antisemitism and I reserve the right to call you out when you are being antisemitic. There are very few people that would dispute that the Arabs ethnically cleansed Jews from all Arab lands most of whom went to Israel. Posted by shadowminister, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 11:41:57 AM
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shadow minister,
The following link is just one of many on the web. Ever heard of Nakba Day? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus Look up Nakba Day on the web. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 8:46:08 PM
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Foxy,
I am aware of the Nakba but with 850 000 Jews being expelled from Arab countries and most having all their worldly possession confiscated not counting those Jews expelled without compensation from East Jerusalem. Also at roughly the same time, Russia annexed half of Finland and Poland and expelled the locals without compensation in 1945. Are you seriously suggesting that Russia should give up this land with compensation? "The Jewish exodus from Arab and Muslim countries, or Jewish exodus from Arab countries, was the departure, flight, expulsion, evacuation and migration of 850,000 Jews, primarily of Sephardi and Mizrahi background, from Arab countries and the Muslim world, mainly from 1948 to the early 1970s. The last major migration wave took place from Iran in 1979–80, as a consequence of the Iranian Revolution." Posted by shadowminister, Wednesday, 4 August 2021 1:55:41 PM
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From the Australian:
"The most serious concern with the tweets about Israel and Jews by Julian Burnside and his wife is not that they were deeply offensive. Rather, their actions seem to be indicative of a growing anti-Semitism from the green-left in Australia. This apparent anti-Semitism is open, transparent and even seen as a signal of virtue among some. Last week, Burnside tweeted a post where he equated Israel’s treatment of Palestinians with the actions of Nazi Germany. Burnside is highly educated and knows full well that Israel has no policy of exterminating Arabs, as the Nazis did in relation to the Jews. Twenty per cent of the Israeli population is Arab and has full voting rights. Arabs serve in Israel’s courts, its parliament and its defence force. No doubt these comments won the applause of left-wing followers on Twitter." Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 5 August 2021 3:23:31 AM
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I wouldn’t be surprised if some Greens were anti-Semitic, after all the Greens consider animal lives more important than human lives.
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 5 August 2021 9:50:17 AM
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shadow minister,
There are so many quotes that you can access by Ben Gurion, Netanyahu, Dayan, on the Palestinians. They're worth reading. You have to allow that there are two sides to every story and we have to be willing to listen to both. There are no conflicts in which one side doesn't feel morally justified in their actions, that's why your terrorist can be my freedom fighter. History can be an important part of bridging this divide. Only if we are willing to lift up all the rocks and shine our lights on what's lurking underneath. There's an old age - "History is written by the winners." That's a popular view. But your winner may not be my winner and vice versa. A lot depends on the narrative one is trying to build. Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 5 August 2021 10:38:26 AM
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Even Adam Bandt has tried to disassociate the Greens from Burnside's racist comments. Apparently the mongrel himself has "stood down" because of the comments and those of his wife.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 5 August 2021 11:18:25 AM
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Constantine (AD 272–337) is often called a hero of the Christian faith because as the emperor of the Holy Roman Empire, he legally banned the persecution of Christians.
He also legalized a growing division between Jews and Christians that laid the foundation for nearly two millennia of anti-Semitism. It was not Yeshua (the Jewish Jesus) or the first Jewish apostles who started a new religion called Christianity. It was early Greek and Roman leaders who created a growing chasm between Judaism and a new sect called Christianity. The faith of the Jewish and Gentile followers of Yeshua was originally called “The Way.” And for the first 300 years of “Christianity” the Gentile followers of Yeshua kept the Passover (there was no celebration of Easter or Christmas). The Romans who saw the members of The Way enter the Temple also considered them to be Jewish. However, not long after the last apostle (John) died, around 99 AD, “Ignatius of Antioch (c. 40–117 AD) told his followers, “It is absurd to profess Christ Jesus [Messiah Yeshua] and to Judaize [practice Jewish laws and customs]” (“To the Magnesians,” VIII, 10). One wonders how Yeshua who practiced the laws and customs in the Torah, was even allowed into this new religion called “Christianity.” By the time the apologist and theologian Justin Martyr (c.100–165) arrived on the scene, the Greek and Roman Christians accused the Jewish people of — the killing of a Divine being, Yeshua. Justin wrote: The “tribulations were justly imposed upon you, for you have murdered the Just One” (Justin Martyr, Dialogue with Trypho). Justin was supposedly the first person to apply the term, “true Israel,” to the Church. (Claudia Setzer, in “Jewish Responses to Early Christians”). Constantine stepped in and codified these sentiments into the laws of the land. Constantine 312, who had been a sun-worshiping pagan and not a Christian, interpreted the vision of the cross as a sign that the Christian God would bring him victory in his fight for control of the western part of the empire Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 5 August 2021 2:13:29 PM
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Hitler being Roman Catholic held the same distain for the Jew as the Church he attended. Mohamed influenced by the Roman Church of the time held the same distain for the Jew as evidenced in the Koran. That is why Greens accept Islamist among their candidates, and their hostility toward Israel.
Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 5 August 2021 2:48:11 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if some shooters were not Nazi's, after all shooters value animal and human life equally, worthless, to be shot! SSAA members, Issy are you not a member, were responsible for training fellow member John Edwards to use a gun effectively to kill his two children Jack and Jennifer in 2018. There has never been so much a sorry from these SS members who trained a murder to kill children.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 5 August 2021 3:31:59 PM
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Prod Boy Jose'
"That is why Greens accept Islamist among their candidates" what a racists comment. I'm proud to say we accept all good people as candidates. I've met several practising Christians who support the Greens. So sit on it and rotate. BTW; Just as you supported the racist Trump, I would say you are a mate of Brian Houston, a money grabbing happy clapper. Am I correct? Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 5 August 2021 4:36:34 PM
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No Paul, your guess is inncorrect. I have NO connection to the Happy Clappers.
Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 5 August 2021 4:43:25 PM
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Paul,
Read the Coroner’s report re Edwards and stop making a twit of yourself. Don’t you want a reference to the evidence that the Greens value chooks more than humans? Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 5 August 2021 5:20:42 PM
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Is Mise,
Not sure about the Greens loving chooks more than humans as you claim. I had a duck named Matilda that I loved very much, and a dog called Queenie, and a budgerigar called Elvis. Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 5 August 2021 5:45:56 PM
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Issy the facts,
1. John Edwards was like you a member of the SSAA. (FACT) 2. SSAA members at the SSAA operated St Mary's Gun Club, trained fellow member John Edwards in the accurate use of hand guns, other clubs had refused Edwards, but not the good SSAA guys at St Mary's. (FACT) 3. With that SSAA training John Edwards proceeded to shoot dead his two children Jack and Jennifer. (FACT) In my opinion the SSAA was culpable in those children's murders, they neglected to run proper checks on Edwards before undertaking his gun training. Yes, the SSAA can hide behind the legality of it all, but they can't run away from their moral responabilities. There has not even been a word of condolence, a word of apology, no remorse from the SSAA about those children's murders, and yes they can hide behind the legality of it all! Never been to a Greens meeting and talked about chooks, by I've been to meetings where turkeys have been under discussion; SSAA/NRA turkeys, Gunnie turkeys and Shooters and Hooters Party turkeys, they are all breeds of turkeys. Gobblers one and all! Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 5 August 2021 8:11:20 PM
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Paul,
The Fact: Edwards was issued a Commissioner’s Permit, that meant that in the opinion of the Commissioner Edwards was a ‘fit and proper’ person under the Act. The next gun club that he applied to had no option but to accept him. Only a fool or someone with an axe to grind would think that any training was necessary to shoot someone at point blank range I.e. a couple of feet. The Coroner said it all. Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 6 August 2021 9:18:55 AM
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The greens have no shame:
"The Greens are protecting a Yarra councillor who faces assault charges from a vote of no confidence when she returns to the council for the first time since a fight outside a gay nightclub. Cr Anab Mohamud, 35, has been recovering from serious facial injuries after she allegedly yelled homophobic slurs during an altercation outside Chasers nightclub in South Yarra in the early hours of April 11, which led to assault, offensive behaviour and public drunkenness charges against her. She will appear at Melbourne Magistrates Court in November. A 29-year-old woman from St Kilda has been charged with recklessly causing injury and affray over the incident. Cr Mohamud will return to council duties on Tuesday for the first time since the incident, and she will face a vote of no confidence, which is expected to fail, filed by independent councillor Herschel Landes. Cr Mohamud was elected to council last November to help form Australia’s first Greens majority local government. Without her, the party would lose its majority." Posted by shadowminister, Saturday, 7 August 2021 2:52:41 AM
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A University of NSW software engineer and Greens candidate in the last federal election is due to face court on Wednesday after allegedly attempting to procure a child for sex from the Philippines.
Jonathan Peter Doig, 57, who describes himself on Twitter as “just a dad from the suburbs”, won 6.8 per cent of the vote in Prime Minister Scott Morrison’s seat of Cook in last year’s federal election. On Tuesday, Australian Federal Police arrested Doig at his Gymea home in Sydney’s south and seized electronic devices including a mobile phone, two laptops and a hard drive. AFP officers say they used financial tracking to allegedly uncover about $120,000 in payments to a known child exploitation facilitator in the Philippines. Posted by shadowminister, Saturday, 7 August 2021 3:52:52 AM
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A Liberal party member has been charged with rape inside parliament house near Scott Morrisons office!
"In a statement, ACT Policing said they will allege that on Saturday, March 23, 2019, the man had sexual intercourse with a woman without consent at Parliament House." Close friend of Scott Morrison, Hillsong Church head Brian Houston has been charged over the concealment of alleged child sex offences. Morrison certainly has some strange friends. Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 7 August 2021 6:41:18 AM
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Paul What has this got to do with anti-semetism? It is intended by you to damage unconnected persons image. You are a sleeze bag!
Posted by Josephus, Saturday, 7 August 2021 10:00:00 AM
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Helping out shonkyminister Proud Boy Jose'. He likes to hear about anything devo linked to politicians no matter how remote, local councillors, failed candidates even Prime Ministers , he likes muck racking, so I helped him out.
No comment on the two posts above mine? You being a far right religious type I asked a couple of days back if you knew Brian Houston. You said you weren't a happy clapper like Houston and his mate Morrison, that's nice to hear. Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 7 August 2021 11:39:26 AM
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Pauliar,
As you are a devout Catholic I can see your attraction to the greens and their broad interpretation of child care. I also see that you are getting desperate to attach any form of wrongdoing to the liberal party. So we have an ex-staffer accused of non-consensual sex with Britanny Higgins with only BH's word against his that sex even occurred or that it was non-consensual. I can see this going nowhere. Secondly, we have someone that Morrison knew that apparently knew of a crime more than 4 decades ago and didn't report it. Absolutely pathetic. Posted by shadowminister, Saturday, 7 August 2021 1:04:20 PM
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shonky,
Its alleged the Happy Clapper withheld evidence in the form of photographs found in his position. Morrison thanked Houston in his 2008 parliamentary speech as someone of influence. Morrison also invited Houston to a White House dinner he attended under the Trump Administration. More than distant old friends I would say. To this day Morrison fails to distance himself from Houston. What is known about the alleged rapist is he was a Liberal Party member at the time of the alleged rape. The typical LNP attitude with these matters, "nothing to see here". Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 7 August 2021 1:40:56 PM
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Paul,
What’s wrong? I thought that you would have responded to Shadowminister with one of your usual witty posts. Dose’t a Green and a Muslim allegedly drunk and disorderly strike you as funny? Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 7 August 2021 1:45:07 PM
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Nah, you'd have to be of a certain waspish outlook to
see and appreciate the humour in something like that. (wink, wink, nudge, nudge). Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 7 August 2021 2:28:36 PM
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Foxy,
Waspish outlook? Well that lets me out, I’m Catholic. Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 7 August 2021 3:31:46 PM
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Is Mise,
I know. (smile). Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 7 August 2021 3:35:43 PM
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Issy,
Not all Muslims are good Muslims, and not all Greens are wowsers, I can attest to the second part, as for the first bit, met more than one Muslim who also liked the amber stuff. Your mob at it again in Sydney, gunnies shooting each other. What club are you in The Alameddine's or The Hamze's. No sitting on the fence, you gotta pick a side. Issy Alameddine or Issy Hamze, both got a ring to it, both clubs like guns, you'll feel right at home. Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 7 August 2021 9:22:08 PM
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Pauliar,
"Not all Muslims are good Muslims" what a shock. The Green token Muslim is far more talented than just a pisscat. Her skills include larceny (theft), antisemitism, homophobia, and assault and battery that we know of. As well as the two senior green paedophiles what other minorities are the greens representing? All you have is that Morrison's friend didn't hand his father to the police 40+ years ago. Posted by shadowminister, Sunday, 8 August 2021 4:34:33 AM
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"Senior NSW Greens MP David Shoebridge is facing allegations he bullied former female colleagues and staff over a decade, leaving one woman feeling “unsafe” and driving party members to write a formal letter of complaint.
The Australian can reveal multiple incidents where women in the party were allegedly targeted and belittled by Mr Shoebridge, who holds the No 1 spot on the Greens’ NSW Senate ticket. Greens sources said Mr Shoebridge’s alleged bad behaviour contravened the party’s core principles of respect and nonviolence, and was well known among Greens staffers. Lauren Gillin, a former policy and communications adviser who spent three years working for Mr Shoebridge, alleged in a series of tweets published on July 23 that her former boss had stopped a meeting to call her “unattractive” after she laughed at him. In the subsequently deleted tweets obtained by The Australian, Ms Gillin said she was “far from the only woman in the party to take issue with him”. “But it’s not ok for a guy who sells himself as a hero for workers. To (sic) humiliate his young female staff on the basis of appearance. Lots of workers have it way worse than I did but the greens and the left should expect better from their representatives,” Ms Gillin wrote. “(He told me) he was sorry I thought the comment was sexist and the(n) accuse (sic) me of starting a whispering campaign against him.” Posted by shadowminister, Wednesday, 11 August 2021 2:56:55 AM
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"Jewish figures have accused Julian Burnside of anti-Semitism and breaking a promise to Holocaust survivors after the prominent human rights barrister took to social media to equate Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians to Nazi Germany.
Mr Burnside, who once represented Alan Bond and Rose Porteous but has more recently taken up various human rights causes, had in 2018 been condemned by the Jewish community after reposting an image showing Defence Minister Peter Dutton’s face superimposed on a Nazi officer in a uniform that included the “death’s head” emblem used by the SS unit responsible for concentration camps
Mr Burnside, at the time, said it was not a reference to the Holocaust but accepted an invitation from the Anti-Defamation Commission to meet with survivors as a “common courtesy”.
Dvir Abramovich, the ADC’s chairman, said Mr Burnside had apologised and told Holocaust survivor Moshe Fiszman he would not make comparisons with Nazi Germany in the future.
On Wednesday, however, Mr Burnside wrote on Twitter that Israel’s “treatment of the Palestinians looks horribly like the German treatment of the Jews during the Holocaust”.