mhaze,

I think that this argument has gone on for long enough.
Going around in circles is not achieving anything
productive. It needs to stop. This should not be a
competition - between - "I'm right!" "You're wrong!"
Frankly I no longer care any more. I thought I could
achieve something by not arguing - but explaining
why I was right (smile) - waste of time.

Anyway - lets agree to disagree - and move on.
Nazism arose in Germany, gained power in Germany,
held power in Germany and would ultimately fall at
the end of the Second World War in Germany.

WWII - was a long time ago. Most Germans did not live
in the Third Reich. It's their grand parents or parents
if they're still alive who may remember. Modern Germans
are less emotionally involved. Nazi ideology is no
longer popular. Nowadays far right parties are against
Muslims and foreign communities (like the Turkish, or
the Serbian). Hitler is poorly regarded - after all
WWII devided the country into 2 for decades.

I would say that many Germans consider Hitler to be an
evil. The swastika and other Nazi emblems are forbidden
in Germany.

Anyway, have a nice day.
Stay safe.

Dear mhaze,

Dancing on the head of a pin aren't you.

There weren't refugees then there were. You couldn't imagine where they could have come from but now you concede they came from Russia. You called them Russian refugees rather than Jewish ones but now you concede there were Jews among them. You cast doubt on the 600,000 figure but then go on to say that they weren't there at a specific time. You say a few years after this figure they seem to have been stripped from the German collective memory so don't explain the rise of anti-Semitic parties.

And what is this from you? “You haven't offered up even one passing piece of evidence that the Nazis used the 'flood' for electoral purposes. Because they didn't because it wasn't an issue of note.”

Why do you think there are no anti-Jewish election posters at the time? Well it is pretty simple for someone who has had an even cursory look at that period, but not you apparently.

The Wiemar Republic had quite strict anti-hate laws which were enforced and which saw Goebbels banned from speaking at one stage.

Actually Goebbels is interesting in that after joining the party in 1924 he initially disavowed himself from Hitler.

“Hitler was opposed to the socialist leanings of the northern wing, stating it would mean "political bolshevization of Germany." Further, there would be "no princes, only Germans," and a legal system with no "Jewish system of exploitation ... for plundering of our people." The future would be secured by acquiring land, not through expropriation of the estates of the former nobility, but through colonising territories to the east. Goebbels was horrified by Hitler's characterisation of socialism as "a Jewish creation" and his assertion that a Nazi government would not expropriate private property. He wrote in his diary: "I no longer fully believe in Hitler. That's the terrible thing: my inner support has been taken away."”
Wikipedia

However: “After reading Hitler's book Mein Kampf, Goebbels found himself agreeing with Hitler's assertion of a "Jewish doctrine of Marxism".”

Recognising his talent for propaganda Hitler made Goebbels Gauleiter for the Berlin section in August 1926. By mid 1927 the Berlin police had banned the Nazis from Berlin and Goebbels himself was under a strict speaking ban so he started a newspaper.

“Material in the paper was highly anti-communist and antisemitic. Among the paper's favourite targets was the Jewish Deputy Chief of the Berlin Police Bernhard Weiß. Goebbels gave him the derogatory nickname "Isidore" and subjected him to a relentless campaign of Jew-baiting in the hope of provoking a crackdown he could then exploit.”
Wikipedia

So there we have it, Hitler as both Foxy and I have been trying to educate you on, was no socialist to speak of. His anti-socialist views managed to alienate one of the leading Nazi figures. The propaganda stemming from the Nazis in Berlin was far more antisemitic than socialist.

This yet again contradicts much so much of what you have been saying but I know it won't make a dent with you though hopefully others will get something from it.

Foxy,

There is no doubt as to the odium in which the Nazis (national socialists) are held. The inconvenient truth is that Communists (international socialists) were

1-far far worse.
2-both more closely related ideologically to each other than to capitalism.

SR,

The Nazis were anti-communist, not anti-socialist primarily because they were both competing in the same socialist pool.

socialism

A political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

A philosophy that encompasses communism, and fascism / national socialism.