As this discussion is more about BLM than South Africa, it should be noted that BLM has absolutely nothing to do with the lives of anyone, black or white.

BLM, starting with America. wants to destroy all the systems of the West. They say this. Their leader has said, "We are trained Marxists". They don't try to hide it: it's just that the MSM does not ask them about it. Do some proper reading, folks.

"Greece was a formidable slave owning nation."

Yeah unlike every other nation on earth at the time. </sarc>

The BLM "leader has said, "We are trained Marxists". "

Is that the same leader who now owns 4 multi-million $ properties and has a 7 figure bank account? A dedicated Marxist...</sarc>. Look up the meaning of the word 'grifter'.

Here's a link that gives us food for thought and shows
how little we actually know or understand:

http://www.theconversation.com/the-backlash-against-black-lives-matter-is-just-more-evidence-of-injustice-85587

How on earth can any of us really comprehend what black people
have lived through and the problems they've had to face in
their lives when we have never been discriminated against
because of our colour?

Dear mhaze,

You write: ”A shopping centre in SA was looted as is their wont. Usual stuff liberated/stolen/appropriated (choose your euphemism) Only one shop avoided the carnage - the book store. I suspect many won't understand the irony there.”

It would take someone like you to use an obvious example of wealth disparity and think it was some sort of “irony” worthy of everyone's amusement.

“Numeracy also continues to be a huge problem. A 2015 study conducted by Trends in International Mathematics and Science (TIMMS) showed that 65% of grade 5 pupils in the country could not add and subtract whole numbers.

“KwaZulu-Natal has been the hardest hit, according to Metcalfe. In that province only 45.4% of pupils have their own reading textbooks and 50.1% have their own maths textbooks. Similarly, in the Eastern Cape, only 56.2% of pupils have their own reading textbooks and 57.2% have their own maths textbooks. Limpopo is marginally better; 58.9% of pupils have their own reading textbooks while 62.4% have their own maths textbooks.”
http://www.news.uct.ac.za/article/-2019-01-11-solving-sas-literacy-crisis

I don't think I have every used the term white male privilege before but if there was ever a time it would be justified it is now.

As to slaves a hundred years before Plato was even born the Persian ruler Cirus the Great was freeing slaves including the Jews in Babylon.

“In 539 B.C., the armies of Cyrus the Great, the first king of ancient Persia, conquered the city of Babylon. But it was his next actions that marked a major advance for Man. He freed the slaves, declared that all people had the right to choose their own religion, and established racial equality. These and other decrees were recorded on a baked-clay cylinder in the Akkadian language with cuneiform script.

Known today as the Cyrus Cylinder, this ancient record has now been recognized as the world’s first charter of human rights. It is translated into all six official languages of the United Nations and its provisions parallel the first four Articles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.”

"Numeracy also continues to be a huge problem"

Are you talking about the South African blacks or yourself?

"As to slaves a hundred years before Plato was even born the Persian ruler Cirus the Great was freeing slaves including the Jews in Babylon."

Are you saying there were no slaves in the Achaemenid Empire? Be careful before you answer.

The records of Nehemiah, Ezra and Esther in the Scriptures record the return of the Jewish slaves taken by Babylon then overthrown by Persia.

Hower with South Africa you must know that Western values were treasted with suspicion by those leaders of tribal law. It is unfortunate that only those that accepted Christianity moved out of from under tribal law. Secular companies exploited their resources for profit, and their valuies become product, not character. Now with the rise of Islam, education of girls and acts of violence is rising right across Africa