Prod Boy Jose'

Its one in all in, Hodgkins like Trump himself should have been charged with murder. If you participate in a riot, then the consequences of that riot should befall all who are guilty of participation. Don't come the weasel words now Jose', you supported insurrection at the time, just as your man Trump did.

Mhaze, you're in the same boat as Proud Boy Jose' when it comes to supporting Trump violence, keep paddling!

Issy, what can I say to one who supports Shooter and Hooter policy of arming five year olds at kindy! Your history of supporting violent gun use is well known!

Hi there STEELEREDUX...

It seems to me there's nothing fundamentally wrong with Muslims, Jewry, Catholics, Protestants or any other of the myriad of the worlds religions. The problem lies quite specifically on the human beings who belong to, and practice, any of those religions together with the interpretation any of them subscribe to when they practise and pursue that religions tenents.

In my humble opinion, ALL religions are iniquitous and corrupt and should be discarded to benefit all humanity. For those who believe in a supreme being, well, let them in the privacy of their own home dwell upon and pray to that being without involving others.

All I can say Paul, is please give a reference to back up that bit of slander.

Hi Issy,
How are you on this cold and frosty morning?

Your support for the violent destruction of life by the use of firearms is well documented on the Forum. Have you ever extinguished life by the use of a firearm? If the answer is yes then my assertion is correct. I posted to you an interview by the 'Guardian Australia' with the grand poobah of the NSW Shooters and Hooters Bob Ballsup where he stated the abolition of all gun laws was favoured by the party. You have said you were a founding member of that radical far right party, so it reasonable that gun toting five years olds is a possibility under such a regime. No slander, I hope I have been of assistance.

There was Proud Boy Jose' and others on the forum all gung-ho for Trump last year. When things went pear shaped January 6th 2021 in Washington when fellow supporters went on a riotous rampage, like Trump, the Forum supporters now want to distance themselves from that behaviour. Like Trump, you can't have it both ways.

Dear o sung wu,

To a large extent I agree with you.

However to be specific about this in my opinion it seems religious fundamentalism of any kind is the real fly in the ointment.

Toxic fundamentalist versions exist for most religions but it is really only when they hold sway within a state that things go particularly awry.

While certainly not a 'believer' I enjoy the bible immensely and am quite content drawing from it in more contemplative moments. Its role in providing literacy to millions across the span of its existence should be not underestimated.

To some extent I think we are getting the balance right in this country. Those who would do wrong things under the banner of their faith are getting called out rather than their crimes being swept under the carpet. The mass graves of Canadian indigenous children recently in the news speaks to horrors that went unchallenged.

Hopefully the standing of religious leaders in this country has been adjusted appropriately.

My one cautionary note is that a third of our school kids are now being taught in religious schools. I don't think that was ever envisaged 50 years ago. We are going to have to be careful that the indoctrination that they inevitably exposed to doesn't impact our unity as Australians.

Paul wrote:Mhaze, you're in the same boat as Proud Boy Jose' when it comes to supporting Trump violence, keep paddling!

I think that's Paul's quirky way of saying that where he lives the facts are irrelevant and he doesn't want to acknowledge that the facts don't support his fantasies.