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Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 10 April 2021 3:29:32 PM
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I've read an interesting article in Haaretz that explains the words people use to describe conflicts determine the way they think about them. Using terms like "so called Palestinians" and the problems being "self inflicted". According to Haaretz: "If the conflict is seen as being between Israelis and Palestinians, a two state solution seems reasonable." "But if its an Arab-Jewish struggle it seems reasonable that Arabs get to keep their giant realm stretching 22 countries from the Atlantic to the Indian Ocean and that the entire land of Israel - a speck of dust in comparison remains in Jewish hands." " An Israeli - Palestinian conflict could be seen as lasting 100 years, at the most, which means it is quiet reasonable to see it ending soon." "But a conflict between Arabs and Jews could be seen - and is seen by many - as lasting from biblical times, from the conflict between Jacob and Esau, through the time of Muhammed to our very day. There is no reason to believe that a conflict spanning millennia should end anytime soon." " Israelis see things from the Jewish-Arab lens - not Israeli Palestinian lens." It won't be ending any time soon. Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 10 April 2021 7:01:13 PM
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Dear Foxy,
"On this day 73 years ago, Zionist gangs entered the Palestinian village of Deir Yassin in Jerusalem , killing between 107 and 254 villagers, mainly women, children, and the elderly - There were documented cases of rape, mutilation, and humiliation; the victims being mainly Palestinian women." http://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/mni2me/on_this_day_73_years_ago_zionist_gangs_entered/ Posted by SteeleRedux, Saturday, 10 April 2021 8:26:35 PM
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Why oh why does anyone bring up the Holocaust when they know full well it's an open invitation for the resident Leftist anti-Semites to spew their hateful bile, and drag up everything the Israelis have done to protect their country and themselves as if self-defence was a crime.
Given what has been done to the Jews by extremists, and Arab and Palestinian terrorists, unremittingly over a very long time, Israel has shown admirable restraint. Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 10 April 2021 8:46:16 PM
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Foxy,
The UNHCR has for some time been headed and run by representatives from authoritarian countries with appalling human rights records and has been deeply anti-Semitic. That the border between Gaza and Israel has been closed is due to Hamas smuggling terrorists into Israel to kill civilians which have occurred in several well-documented cases. The border between Israel and Gaza was formed in 1948 and is internationally recognised. SR, Your antisemitism is well established. Posting a link to a Palestinian propaganda web page that is flagged as antisemitic is just another example. That it is factually wildly incorrect doesn't help your cause either. Posted by shadowminister, Sunday, 11 April 2021 2:31:51 AM
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Shdowminister,
Oh Dear! ttbn, Once again - you come out with the "Leftist crap!" It's wearing a bit thin. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 11 April 2021 8:31:40 AM
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Here's something from Human Rights Watch:
"The Israel government continues to enforce severe
and discriminatory restrictions on Palestinians'
human rights; restrict the movement of people and
goods into and out of the Gaze strip; and facilitate
the transfer of Israeli citizens to settlements in the
occupied West Bank, an illegal practice under international
law."
"Israel's 12-year closure of Gaza, exacerbated by Egyptian restrictions on its border with Gaza, limits access to
educational, economic and other opportunities, medical
care, clean water, and electricity for the nearly
2 million Palestinians who live there. 80% of Gaza's population depend on humanitarian aid."
" Israeli forces stationed on the Israel side of fences
separating Gaza and Israel continue to fire live ammunition
at demonstrators inside Gaza who pose no imminent threat
to life, pursuant to open fire from senior officials that
contreve international human rights standards."
There's much more at:
http://www.hrw.org/world-report/2020/country-chapters/israel/palestine#