SR

"Well which is it mate? What are you going to hang your hat on this time?"

They are saying the same thing. Two different ways of pointing out that the total death rate in Sweden in 2020 was lower than the past despite not locking down and thereby proving that lockdowns have no effect on death rates.

Now I get that that is beyond you which just goes to demonstrate not only your spectacular innumeracy but also your inability to follow simple logic. Which I guess is the reason you've elected to not even address all the other data I raised. If simply adjusting the Swedish data is beyond your understanding, then the other data must look, to you, like its written in cuneiform.

So SR, you're just going to have to take the word of your betters and accept that numbers as they stand prove that lockdowns were a monumental error and that some of the more learned among us saw that a year ago.

Dear mhaze,

Come on mate, you know you are on a hiding to nothing with this and doing what you are doing with these statistics is just laughable.

However even in the face of the very pronounced excess deaths graphs I posted earlier you are going to hold on to the lie? That is cultish behaviour.

http://imgur.com/a/Wnl4ygr

Since 2011, last year was the highest year for total deaths in Sweden by about 7% clear of all the others.

Norway in contrast had 2020 as the second lowest year for total deaths.
http://www.statista.com/statistics/611743/number-of-deaths-in-norway/

Give it away.

"Since 2011, last year was the highest year for total deaths in Sweden by about 7% clear of all the others."

And since 2011 the population has increased by ~8%. That you can't see the need to adjust for that is a rather sad indictment of whatever school system you went through.

Oh and BTW the raw 2018 figures are ~6% below 2020. More evidence of SR's innumeracy.

oh and BTW In the meantime he ignores all the other data I've bought forth. I can't decide if it because he just doesn't want it to be true and can't work out how to even begin to criticise it or because its just too complex for him to comprehend, as per the population age and gender spreadsheets I forced him to see.

oh and BTW all this means that lockdowns were a monumental error which some of us warned about a year ago.

Dear mhaze,

Oh boy. You really do have an ungodly amount invested in maintaining your lie don't you.

Increasing population but with increasing life expectancy as clearly evident in the figures. The 'total number of deaths'. (remember that pesky figure) had been on a solid downward trend through the decade. That was viciously reversed in 2020, but not in Norway. Why do you think that was you clown?

And still no comment about the excess deaths graph clearly showing the blow out in the Swedish figures.

You really are being childish over this. You are like a primary school kid nearly in tears stamping his feet and repeatedly declaring you are right despite the obvious contrary.

As to history while you were claiming this was just another flu like disease I was saying the USA would become the great infecting nation it ultimately became.

Meanwhile in other news New Guinea with only 39 deaths from the WuFlu has done a much better job of containing it than China which had 4636 deaths.

What's that you say? China has a bigger population? No no you don't need to adjust for that...just use the raw numbers.

I'm grateful for the lockdowns.
It kept a barrier between the infected and me.