I'm unsure of why Loudmouth believes the things he does and so it's hard to address his concerns-

Perhaps he's scared that if universities change then research will decline and knowledge will be lost. University employees will lose their jobs and they will lose the investment they have made over the years. Obviously Loudmouth has spent some years in the university system- perhaps worked in the system- and probably has many friends still in the system- for him perhaps a change in the system is like death. Perhaps he believes that his community couldn't survive outside of the university system.

I am confident that his community can survive "outside" in a future university system- and can exist as a type of "friendly society" where the full range of people from the young to the old can exist. Perhaps using a model similar to the British university system.

He quotes Bordeau (who seemingly argued against globalisation and neoliberalism) yet in the next breath he supports it- through multicultural immigration policy- and destruction of British Australia. (Maybe it's my fault in not reading enough Bordeau- Social Capital)

Perhaps for him it's more important to support the university institution itself than the nation for which it's supposed to support- putting form before function.

http://sociology.iresearchnet.com/sociology-of-education/social-capital-and-education/

I've long suspected that university actions since the 90's have been viciously self serving and this is more "grist for the mill". The universities were rightly scared stiff of Howard's policies and seem to have turned against the Australian people as a result. Or maybe I'm just seeing it without the world's context and the ideological changes in university culture across the world.

Maybe Howard could have given them more of a soft landing... though as Turnbull has mentioned- they are constrained by the constitution- sometimes you can only do what you can.

The university is a member of the Australian family of institutions- if Australia dies so does the university- the same with all families.

CM,

Yes, I worked in the university system, in Indigenous student recruitment and support, but had no time for the senior management and their self-indulgence.

I recall one new Campus Director who immediately set up his office with new walls, so that anybody wanting to see him (shades of Catch-22 and M. M. M. Major !) had to make an appointment with his new secretary. He usually wasn't in. He lasted about four years.

Senior management destroyed the programs that we had set up. They've never been revived. Utter bastards.

Middle management, I was fine with. I had a great Head of School (he later went on to found the Men's Shed movement) until senior management forced us out of his School and into the Indigenous Faculty, on the grounds that, well, we were Indigenous, weren't we ? And those Faculty bastards promptly closed us down (since we were providing preparation and support for Indigenous students wanting to do mainstream study, anathema to half-witted 'radicals'), with the connivance of those senior management bastards. The university system is full of bastards, or at least it used to be.

Is that enough for you ?

Joe

Foul-Mouth,

So now you're getting back at them by helping Beijing flood Australia with Chinese.

Actually I think what you are doing is ironic justice:

Let the Chinese Australians do to the British Australians what the British Australians did to the Aboriginal Australians.

That is, just as long as we keep in our 'All-Australian' family.

Why do some hare-brained stick to the idea that people of unequal ability/competence/mentality can ever be equal ?
The very worst way of that senseless thinking has been put on show for 50 years now & what did we get to see ?
Saturation educated mutts who are of no use to anyone at the expense of all !

individual,

Stop bad mouthing Foul-Mouth.

Or is that Stop foul mouthing Bad-Mouth? Hmmm, that gives me an idea.

Thanks for the information Loudmouth.

So Loudmouth seems to think that indigenous elevation is important. I can't see that happening except if they do it themselves by working together as a cultural group.

I would like to see a fixed amount given to indigenous people yearly- but this hasn't worked very well in the past- I would like to see them create their own autonomous regions where they can create their own destiny their own police their own institutions.

If they choose to live with British Australian's then they would need to live by British Australian laws and accept the British Australian principles even if they aren't fair to indigenous people.

We need to move beyond the current infighting because it isn't in anyones interest