I think the US should go back to the polls, just to be on the safe side. Any claims of rigging the polls or election fraud or people taking advantage of the system, could at least be dealt with and thrown in the bin.

I can't see the US improving until the matter of any election questions are addressed and until a 'clean election' is held and any speculation is dealt with.

What do you think, considering the Australian Government, literally goes along with the US Government on so many issues?

No way!
This isn't like the 2000 election (or even the 2004 election) where the result was extremely close and counting errors are known to have been made. Biden won this one decisively! Trump is pursuing every legal challenge he can, as is his right, but they're all very likely to come to anything as his rhetoric seldom ventures anywhere near the truth, and this election was much better scrutinised than past ones.

The bottom line is that the USA has legal procedures that it follows. Going back to the polls "just to be on the safe side" would violate those laws.

Which is just as well, really, as doing so would result in an even bigger COVID outbreak.
Alos, where would it stop? Would every subsequent election have to be run twice if one candidate makes unsubstantiated allegations of fraud? And if the loser of the second ballot makes the same sort of allegations, would it have to be run a third time? Or a fourth? Fifth?

It's a ridiculous solution to a non issue.

Let's face it, as long as there's corruption, the more corrupt will never concede until they dispose of the less corrupt at the expense of the ordinary folk !
The Democrats have put that on display for all to see.

Nathan,

Not a bad idea. It happened once in SA when a Labor government was kicked out to teach them a lesson. I don't remember the reason for a second ballot, but the people who wanted teach the government changed their minds and Labor romped back in. I suspect something as well as corruption occurred in the US, and Trump would win a second time around.

I have remembered the reason for the second SA poll. The original one was too close to call. I believe that if there was another vote in the US, Trump would romp in; voters would by now have realised how they were conned and lied to by Facebook and the other Big Tech companies. Too late now of course. America is in for unpleasant four years due to their stupidity an and ingratitude.

Nathan,

What a brilliant idea, such a cunning plan !

And whoever loses can always demand another election ! Brilliant !

And whoever loses that one, can demand another election ! Brilliant !

And whoever loses THAT one, can demand yet another election ! Brilliant !

Ad infinitum.

Any other bright ideas ?

Joe

Individual,

"Let's face it, as long as there's corruption, the more corrupt will never concede .... "

You got that right !

So: how to get Donny out of the White House .....

Of course, he can always flee overseas, maybe to Russia, or Turkey.

Then the work of cleaning out his fetid Swamp can begin .....

Joe

No evidence of fraud or corruption has been found.
Not this time, nor in the past. Trump's claims
have been proven baseless and just because the
man refuses to concede - the transition is going
ahead smoothly. What Trump continues to say is
irrelevant. He's been proven wrong. Biden is the
President-elect. He's won fair and square.
And Trump will be leaving the White
House in January 2021. Either on his own or will
be escorted out. His time is over! The people booted
him out. And if he can't admit that - it's his problem
no one else's. He's done enough damage to the country as
it is!

>I have remembered the reason for the second SA poll. The original one was too close to call.
How long ago was that?

>I believe that if there was another vote in the US, Trump would romp in; voters would by now
>have realised how they were conned and lied to by Facebook and the other Big Tech companies
Don't you think the voters would by now have realised how they were conned and lied to by Trump himself?

Ttbn,

Maybe you mean in the election in about 1962 or 1963 in which (from very faulty memory) the Playford LCL government may have come up short by a couple of seats - and a couple of country Independents (Stott ? Quirk ?) held the balance of power, and very selflessly, in exchange for ministerial positions, sacrificed their independence in order to save his government.

Labor won the election in 1965 but Playford, I recall, was always very popular, and remained a friend of Labor leader, Don Dunstan's. I remember going up to a dance on Yorke Peninsula with Dunstan, lovely bloke, in June of that year, with my future wife ;) Happy days !

Joe

Nathan,

I should imagine that the cost of running a presidential election in the US would be in the region of a billion dollars. And what you might get is this:

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/joe-biden-has-increased-his-vote-numbers-following-a-recount-demanded-by-donald-trump

If Trump is willing to pay upfront out of his own funds (provided they exist), then let him go for it.

Joe

Joe,

I think it was when Des Corcoran was premier. I think it was him who was being taught a lesson. I was still a deluded Labor voter those days, and lived in the electorate he took over from his father, Jas Corcoran. Des retired from the military to stand for the seat. Now there was a good bloke. The 'talent' has slipped since then.

Ttbn,

Yes, he was a decent bloke. Both Corcoran and Dunstan had some competent ministers in their governments, not all that unusual for Labor.

Joe

SURELY THESE ALLEGATIONS MUST BE TESTED BEFORE A COURT
Rudi Giuliani alleges that in Pennsylvania;
1,823,148 Mail-in Ballots were sent out, and 1.4 million returned.
However, he claims that 2,589,242 Mail-in Ballots have actually been recorded in the states final count.
How can they have 700,000+ MORE mail-in ballots in the final count, than were sent out in the first place ?
He further claims, that 22,686 of these mail-in ballots were received the very same day they were mailed out and a further 20,000 were received the day BEFORE they were mailed out.
These are allegations of the highest significance. If I were Mr Biden, I’d be demanding that Giuliani immediately present all evidence before a court, so if Giuliani is wrong, these claims can be discredited. Maybe their is a simple explanation for the discrepancy.
But then again, what if the claims have merit

Josephus,
There's a very good reason why the courts did not test those allegations: the Republicans know they are wrong, and wouldn't dare destroy what little credibility they have left by bringing anything that ridiculous to the court.
The following is from http://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pa-mailin-votes-ballots/ :

The 1.8 million figure represents the number of mail-in ballots that Pennsylvania reported had been requested by persons registered as Democrats as of the voter registration deadline of Oct. 19. That figure did not include the hundreds of thousands of mail-in ballots that were also requested by persons registered as Republicans (or persons registered with third parties affiliations or with no party affiliation) as of that date:

The deadline for requesting mail-in ballots was several days later (Oct. 27), and by then over 3 million mail-in ballots were requested, of which over 2.6 million were ultimately returned by the specified deadline for ballot counting:

Aiden how do you account for the 20,000 that were returned four days before they were mailed out?

How does anyone account for the fact that some people apparently voted at 1am and 3pm? In a country where voting is voluntary, I can't seem people getting up to vote at those times of the morning. Technology exposes liars.

Josephus,

I reckon Trump and his followers should be investigated by the FBI for trying to incite rebellion and usurp the Presidency.

In fact I understand that some members of Congress will be pushing for it after Biden's inauguration.

If I was you I would distance myself from Trump and lie low for a while. You don't want to end up behind bars, do you?

Josephus,

Mailed out and then returned, but recorded as having been sent out later ? Is that what you mean ? So what ?

Ttbn,

Yes, in the US, some polling booths open at midnight. New Hampshire is famous for it.

Just trying to help :)

Joe

Trump haters should at least be honest and admit that they are glad he is gone no matter what lies were told or what corruption occurred to get rid of him. It's a wonder some crank or cranks didn't assassinate him to make sure he went.

Ttbn,

So " .... what corruption occurred to get rid of him" ?

Evidence, please - no more empty assertions :)

Joe

Joe,

How about you give me evidence of NO corruption. Like me, you only know what people you believe say: that there is no corruption. I, on the other hand, believe the people who say there is corruption GALORE.

Which proves that we are probably both talking through our arses as we don't know, and have no actual evidence either way. It also shows what I have said, but still got involved, that there is no point at all in us discussing American elections. I will never get involved in this sort of shite again. And, I suggest, all non-Americans do the same. Nobody cares what we think.

Ttbn,

How does one 'prove' a negative ? Solve that one, Ttbn, and you'll get the Nobel Prize for Logic.

No, if you assert that there IS corruption, find it: 'Asseritur gratis, negatur gratis'.

In relation to the vote count, after nearly a month, none has been found. Miscounts, putting votes in the wrong pile, probably, but deliberate fraud and corruption - not yet.

But give Trumpf time, he might be able to win over some Republican vote-counters and scrutineers. Perhaps it's getting too late even for that, not after a month.

Joe

It's a pity Australians don't spend the time they have done on the US election on their own politicians. Heads firmly in the sand when they could actually achieve something in their own country. All mouth when they don't have to take any responsibility.

ttbn,

Don't worry, the Chinese will fix them.

Saw that idiot Simon Birmingham on ABC's Insiders this morning saying Australia is taking China to the WTO re China's actions against Australian imports.

I remember the Philippines getting the International Court to find in its favour re South China Sea and China refusing to comply.

China will do exactly the same to Australia.

But don't worry, Simon thinks it will go favourably ....... that's the main thing.

What do you think? Are you a Simon man? Simon says ............................................................

Mr. Opinion,

Shows you how thick Birmingham is. And, with the Snoop App coming in on Tuesday, we are moving closer to China's 'social credit' system. When Morrison said that Australia will decide what's best for Australia, he left off the "but it will be a lot like China" bit.

ttbn,

Did you see in the news today where Soot has got a chartered plane (I assume Australian taxpayers are footing the bill) to bring in Chinese students in preference to bringing in stranded Australians stuck in Canada, etc?

Disgraceful. Chinese students pay of course; returning Australians do not. How any Australian can respect the government is beyond my understanding. Morrison is a disgrace who will eventually cave in to Beijing.

And how come Polly Waffles aren't like they used to be ? Too much rice bubbles ?

Hmmmm, what else can I gripe about like you fellas ? Vegemite is now a bit too salty ? What did those Yanks do to it ? And how come HCF folding chairs don't have a lock on them, so arse-up you go ?

Why is the world going to hell ? We'll all be rooned before the year is out.

Joe

Pseudo-mouth,

Might be time for Western leaders to have a look at Marx's predictions if they want to understand where China is coming from and what might lie around the corner.

China will be very happy if the world goes belly up and revolutions break out across the globe allowing China to step in to fix the problem with worldwide communism.

That should make all you in the pro-China camp happy.

York "We are told that Biden won more votes nationally than any presidential candidate in history. But he won a record low of 17 percent of counties; he only won 524 counties, as opposed to the 873 counties Obama won in 2008. Yet, Biden somehow outdid Obama in total votes."
Does this deserve an explanation??

Mr Moron,

You have no idea. There will NEVER be any further push for socialism anywhere in the world, and certainly not the Chinese phony version of it. In every case, the Marxist Utopian blueprint has gone belly-up very early, and any 'socialism' has invariably degenerated into a fascism. We forget that both Mussolini and Hitler were attracted to socialism early on.

And no, China's economy and political system is more like a Mafia writ large than anything Marx could have dreamt of.

And if anything, I suspect that China's population growth is stalling: that the birth rate has hit a maximum, and that soon enough, its total population will start to decline - in a generation or so. So it will have to move soon or give it all away.

Troll something else.

Joe

Pseudo-Mouth,

Looks like I hit a nerve.

You're the one who is pro-China, not me.

Moron,

I rest my case.

Joe

Pseudo-Mouth,

Ouch ............ just hit another nerve.

That's Pseudo-Mouth's nerve .......... not mine.

The FBI is investigating Democrats registering votes in several States. This Election was fought on fraudulent behaviour. That is why more votes were registered from postal Votes than registered residents of the State.

Josephus,

Bet ya anything ya like that Trump ends up in jail long before Biden does.

Mr Opinion: 1
Josephesus: 0

Discrepancies,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWrWSDGGt2c&feature=push-fr&attr_tag=pi4z4eIZ78Sxwv_k%3A6
[just skip the adds

Many people have sworn affidavits that they know of corruption occurring in voting and the handling of votes in the US election. People don't do that lightly; if they are lying they go to jail.

Close the counting and pull out suit cases from under the table.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCtUqCBGbOs&feature=push-fr&attr_tag=z_RlrJnCPO3K6Dkf%3A6

Ttbn,

(A). Yeah, so, gee, they couldn't possibly be lying, could they ? Cos they might go to jail :(

Josephus,

(B). Yes, video someone with a suitcase, pulling a sheaf of papers out of it, and of course it must be genuine because - see (A).

Too half-witted to comment on.

Joe

loudmouth2,
The fact is Trump received 12,000,000 more votes than 2016.

In the USA Election everyone in some States received a mail in Vote and some received several ballots for dead people, and in some cases on election day some were told they had already voted, because their mail out vote was filled out by someone else and sent in.

Josephus,

Yes, indeed Trumpf did. And Biden received seven million more.

End of.

Isn't democracy inconvenient sometimes, especially when you don't get your way ?

Joe

Hi Josephus,

It seems that Barr, Trumpf's A-G, is contemplating leaving the job soon.

So Goebbels is leaving the bunker ?

Joe

Loudmouth, it is not over yet!
http://www.glennbeck.com/radio/explained-texas-sues-four-states-for-presidential-election-violations
The Democrats do not like it.
http://www.mercurynews.com/2020/12/08/texas-sues-to-overturn-election-results-in-four-other-states/

http://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/08/texas-sues-four-battleground-states-in-supreme-court-over-unlawful-election-results.html
These States flooded then state with mail in ballots.
http://www.newsmax.com/politics/paxton-lawsuit-battleground-states/2020/12/08/id/1000533/

Josephus,

The funny thing about telling the same lie over and over again is that it's the teller who tends to believe it most.

So you think the rest of us are complete idiots ?

Joe

It's never a good idea to ask someone if they think you are an idiot. However, in this case, Josephus is probably too polite to say yes. Now if I was asked the question ....

Ttbn,

Gosh, so cutting :( I'm touched that the alt-Right has marshalled all of its best brains to the task of such penetrating repartee.

Perhaps I could modify my remark about Josephus' gullibility: his supporters are as likely to believe every lie that they so busily tell each other.

It must be little comfort to be of sub-normal IQ :(

Joe

Loudmouth, for the record I have an IQ 152 as verified by testing. The Democrats cannot be trusted and you just accept their deceit and deliberate manipulation of an election that violated the USA constitution. Democratic States that flooded their State with postal votes even to deceased persons. In States where Trump actually increased his vote over the 2016 Election. Those States need to go back to the polls in person and lodge a legal vote.

Josephus,

The courts have found evidence of fraud, as you claim ?

Get back to us when they do :)

Joe

Hi Josephus

I may be a traitor to the Biden cause when I point out the memorable speech Trump’s lawyer Giuliani gave http://youtu.be/TqXtiQ20BLw

Such stirring notes might also dignify you.

Cheers

Josephus,
If you have such a high IQ then why are you failing to use it?

>The Democrats cannot be trusted
Why are your assumptions so one sided? Surely if the major party in opposition can't be trusted, the same is true of the major party in government?

>and you just accept their deceit
We know there are thousands of examples of Trump engaging in deceit; examples of his opponents doing so are far rarer.

>and deliberate manipulation of an election that violated the USA constitution.
There's no evidence of the constitution being violated.

>Democratic States that flooded their State with postal votes
Yes. That's "democratic" as in respecting democracy; it's not just the states controlled by the Democrat party that did so. The reason is Covid; it makes sense to encourage people to vote in a way that minimises the spread of it.

>even to deceased persons.
People die. Those who do so before their names are removed from the electoral roll receive postal voting forms but can't return them. A lot of effort has been spent looking for examples of such votes fraudulently returned by others, but very little evidence of this occurring has been found, and no evidence that if favoured Biden over Trump.

>In States where Trump actually increased his vote over the 2016 Election.
Election participation was at a record high across the USA, not just in the states that favoured Biden. Nothing suspicious about that!

>Those States need to go back to the polls in person and lodge a legal vote.
The election was legal, and Biden won convincingly.

Aidan

Pres Trump got 11 million votes more than he won by in 2016. Plus he got 3 million more votes
than Obama did when he won his 2nd term.
There’s no sign of him being unpopular with the votes he got.

The Republican Party picked up seats across the country, even taking half a dozen seats in the house
as well as controlling the senate, depending on who wins the 2 remaining senate seats coming up in Georgia.

It was President Trump driving that big surge in voting numbers. Biden couldn’t even get 6 people at one of his rallies.
President Trump always had crowds of 20,000-40,000 wherever he went.

Biden’s stale, like yesterday’s news, and the bad policies, that saw America stagnate under Obama for 10 years.

,

Josephus. Your facts are right, about the vote rigging.

Mr Opinion
if anyone should be arrested by the FBI, it’s Biden. In fact I’m hoping they Impeach him or cart him off to prison, to finally be held accountable for the money making scam his son Hunter Biden and him were running, taking millions in bribe money from China, Russia,and Ukraine. It would be poetic justice after,they tried to take Pres Trump down by running that Russian Collusion Fraud, about a week after he won the election in 2016. Then the stupid impeachment.

Here they are saying Pres Trump should concede. Well the Democrat Party never conceded when President Trump won, they said he was an imposter and tried to impeach him and attack him with their propagandist media for 4 years.
One of the reasons for their hysteria, is the corruption that thrived under Obama. Some very big people high up,were taking bribes from countries like China and Russia,including Hilary Clinton.

They realised when Trump won, the corruption could be uncovered at some stage.
They have all been really frightened of being held accountable,especially Hilary Clinton.
That’s why they tried so hard to Demonise and discredit Trump.
Protecting themselves from prosecution and going to prison.

The Dem courts,some Republicans and judges, knew that vote rigging took place from the evidence,
but they didn’t have the balls to declare Biden not President or didn’t want to.
They just passed the buck onto the next court. Pr Trumps lawyers wanted to get through the lower courts quickly,anyway,
because they had to go through the lower courts to get the Supreme Court to hear the case and they are on a time deadline.

The Supreme Court apparently can choose what cases it will hear.They may have taken the easy way out too.
Now with Texas and 18 states suing those other 4 Dem States for acting unconstitutionally in changing the voting rules,
the Supreme Court will probably have to take the case.
There’s still an issue of finding the Dem States acted unconstitutionally in running the voting under different slacker rules,
and whether the Supreme Court will go as far as to Disqualify Biden. They may stop at ruling against the unconstitutional,new rules theDem States used.

I think it is necessary to disqualify Biden, otherwise he will stack the Supreme Court with more judges, like he said he would. The Dems will go right back to cheating, because there will be no Supreme Court or any other court who will rule to stop them.

There’s another issue also, the Republican States don’t like the idea that the Vice President, of the Biden Presidency, can cast the deciding vote,if there is a 50/50 deadlock in the senate over some issue. They feel their vote has been diluted by the sloppy way the Dems ran the voting, thus resulting in theDems being able to cast the deciding vote in a deadlocked issue.

Americans will have to live with their idiocy. I'm more interested in the idiocy in Australia. But, it seems that Biden will be unlikely to get very much past the Senate.

On a more important issue than Trumpf's future, the Covid-19 vaccine:

The US population is around 330 million. Let's suppose that a million doses are given each day. So all of the population of the US could be vaccinated in a year, and then double-dosed in the next year.

So who is going to be giving those million injections each day ? The staff of hospitals and medical personnel are already flat-out.

But let's suppose they can do it: that means that about half of the US population will be vaccinated by mid-2021. Well under 'herd immunity' level. [Then, of course, the second dose]. So the virus will be raging well into the second half of 2021. At around 3000 deaths each day, we can expect a total toll approaching a million by August next year, when the death-rate may slow down.

It will forever be known as 'Trumpf's Legacy'.

Joe

CHERFUL,
>Pres Trump got 11 million votes more than he won by in 2016. Plus he got 3 million more votes
>than Obama did when he won his 2nd term.
Yes, and Biden got even more. That's democracy!

>There’s no sign of him being unpopular with the votes he got.
That depends what you mean by "unpopular". He has a lot of loyal followers, but he's also widely hated.

>Biden’s stale, like yesterday’s news, and the bad policies, that saw America stagnate under Obama for 10 years.
A ten year stagnation in an 8 year term? Quite an achievement! And for the more intelligent readers, a sign that you're blaming him for the failings of others!

The biggest contributors to America's stagnation under Obama were the Hooverite Republicans in Congress.

> if anyone should be arrested by the FBI, it’s Biden. In fact I’m hoping they Impeach him or cart
>him off to prison, to finally be held accountable for the money making scam his son Hunter Biden
>and him were running, taking millions in bribe money from China, Russia,and Ukraine.
Impeachment and imprisonment require evidence. All the evidence shows is that Hunter cashed in on his father's position; there's no evidence suggesting Joe Biden benefitted from that and it's hard to see how he could have.

Why is it that you turn a blind eye to Trump cashing in on his own presidency, yet are so eager to take down Biden that you ignore the facts?

And why do you still stick with the lies about Hillary Clinton when you know that Russia paid people to make them up, and that Clinton's finances have been closely scrutinised while Trump's were (and still are) opaque?

Australia is in no position to criticise the US China virus situation. Contrary to the ovine adulation of Australian governments whose main contribution was an undemocratic assault on freedoms, businesses, employment, and generally wrecking the economy, the relatively good position of our China virus situation was due to:

Luck
Weather
Geography.

More important and certainly more tragic than Trump's humiliating defeat, is the news of the death from the bogus Covid-19 virus of Charley Pride, at 86:

http://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/12/arts/music/charley-pride-dead.html?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20201212&instance_id=0&nl=breaking-news&ref=cta&reg
i_id=127104467&segment_id=46772&user_id=35fd54d942ac9b9e288ef933afd6d6f5

He made country and western music respectable.

Joe

It's hard to find an OLO thread that deals with that minor matter, the Covid-19 pandemic.

But here's an interesting item for those, like that half-wit Trumpf, who thinks that it's just a matter of days or maybe weeks at the most, before everybody - or at least every white person - or at least every important white person - is vaccinated:

http//www.irishpost.com/news/top-doctor-warns-it-could-take-nine-months-for-whole-of-ireland-to-be-vaccinated-against-covid-19-199792

The vaccine being distributed across the US has to be done twice, i.e. around 660 million doses. At a million a day, that's nearly two years of vaccinations. With 'America First', that means that Africa and Asia etc. can come later, much later. But Biden will massively improve the status of the US around the world by sharing the vaccine equitably.

Wow: 'equitably'. There's a word that the US hasn't heard or used for quite a while.

Joe

RISK MANY "FAITHLESS ELECTORS" MAY "CROSS THE FLOOR" TO TRUMP TOMORROW

A chance Trump may "win" tomorrow.

TO all other men and women of anti-Trump virtue...

There is a risk many in the Electoral College (bribed or threatened by Trump) may become "faithless electors"

who "cross the floor" in favour of Trump tomorrow.

This kind of activity went on in 2016 - see
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-14/us-electoral-college-vote-joe-biden-donald-trump-president/12969538

"Sometimes electors break from their party's pledge. They are called "faithless electors".

It happened in 2016 when seven electors went against tradition to vote against their own state's

directives, marking the largest number of faithless electors in more than a century.

So in what is normally a formality, the electoral college vote took extra prominence that year,

even though the faithless electors did not ultimately change the result of the election."

As Trump seems happy to do anything to win there may be A SHARP SPIKE IN FAITHLESS ELECTORS TOMORROW

See "The ABC will be running a live blog covering the electoral college vote, from 7:00am AEDT on December 15."

A result is expected around Midday Tomorrow.

Cross Fingers for only a FEW of NO "faithless electors" tomorrow.

Pete

Hi Pete,

Yes, this could be Trumpf's moment, one way or the other. It's Monday morning, US time I think, so the electors are about to go either with their states' popular mandate, or in effect, stage a mini-coup, state by state, and go against democracy, against their states' popular decision and go for the Trump dictatorship.

My bet is that they'll accede to the popular will, think about 2024 and dumpf Trumpf - and his Swampf. I have faith in the American people to do the right thing.

So what idiotic thing will Trumpf do then ? Call out his Fat Boys ? Getting them out there with their automatic weapons and bullet-proof vests and homoerotic kilts (and no doubt their mom-made lunches), to burn placards and make a real, real lot of noise ? And take over, what ? The local landscape gardening centre ?

'This is the way the world ends,
Not with a bang but a whimper.'

(T.S. Eliot: The Hollow Men)

cf. http://medium.com/@temilorun.e/t-s-eliot-hollow-men-an-analysis-c8893808ae9a

Joe

Loudmouth you do not understand the American values of the Republican Party. They are not happy to have a child murderer and an alliance with the Chinese Communist Party and Iran to take over American values as is happening to their neighbour Canada. The protest of the increased vote for Trump was not for the person but for the freedom principles he represented.They are not going to let their country become a State of the New World Order under Chinese rule, like Australia with its 1,900,000 members of the Chinese Communist Party infiltrating every area of Australian sovereignty and security. The USA have a record of releasing people from the oppression of Communism, which Daniel Andrews is happy to enforce on Australia.

Josephus,

Can you get it through your head that Biden won many millions of votes more than Trumpf ? That Biden has won - subject to anti-democratic alt-right coups - the Electoral college vote ?

Your lot blew it. Suck it up. Plan for 2024 and do it the democratic way.

What the hell has any of this got to do with child murderers ? Murder is a crime against the existing law. Women - I think this is what you're getting at - have rights to abortion, so they are not breaking any laws, so they aren't committing any crimes when they exercise those rights.

Don't human rights mean anything to you ?

Joe

Josephus

You need to put your American cards on the table in explaining abortion law in your state of ARIZONA!
________

Joe

I've found it pointless getting ruffled by JosePHUS.

PHUS is part of a Religious Extremist US Group that the FBI, under the Biden Admin, will in time deal with.

The case includes the broader PHUS Group's Illegal actions against Legal US abortion clinics.

Meanwhile Good News:

The US State Electoral Colleges voted today with the result affirming Trump lost and Biden Won.

Hopefully Trump's pathological resistence to the fair vote result will now cease. But probably not.
__________________________

Trump has just effectively sacked his own Attorney-General, Barr, only 35 days prior to the Trump Admin ending.

This is because Barr told the public the truth that there was NO SIGNIFICANT VOTER FRAUD.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/trump-says-attorney-general-barr-resigns-20201215-p56njg.html

The State of Texas is giving the citizens of Texas a vote on a Bill to withdraw from The States of the Union, and become an independent nation. Since the Federal Government does not represent their values, other States are also looking at this and joining Texas.

Hiya Jose-Babe

And another tiny minority of Texans believe in UFOs.

Poida

I saw a headline today saying that everyone thought that the US election was over except Donald Trump .... let's add Josephus, Plantagenet and Loudmouth. BORING!

Hi Ttbn,

Hmmmmm. ........ there seem to be many on OLO who think that this election is certainly not over, that in fact (as this thread is titled), it should be re-run - and then re-run again until the proponents get their way.

So when did you start thinking that this election was over ?

It is, by the way :)

Joe

loudmouth2, the election that you in your mind is over and Biden is your President. However many States are not represented by Biden and Harris and their alignment with Iran and China. Their policies do not reflect the freedoms of the American Way. There is a possibility of States voting to form a separate Nation. I've listened to those forming the proposed Bill, it is a possibility.

Josephus,

Isn't lumacy fun ?!

Yes, I think that Biden is the president -elect. Yes, I think the election is well and truly over.

The empty threat by a few hicks to get Texas or some other state to secede is hilarious. It may well be the last gasp of the Fat Boys or some bunch of hermits in their underground bunkers with their two years' supply of toilet paper (pity about that faulty valve on the septic tank), to imagine that everybody is going to rise up and break away with their own economy.

As for Texas breaking away to form the Davey Crockett State, I wonder if Mexico thinks it might be worth-while trying to take it back. From rough memory, the vote in Texas was something like 53: 46 in Trump's favour. I think Biden might have got a majority of women's votes, so if Davey Crockett tries it on, Lysistrata may have something to say about it. "Is that a spear I see under your cloak ?"

Sorry for mixing metaphors :( It's all such a hilarious show these days.

Joe

Crikey Jose-Babe

Where you say those Republican States (who didn't vote Biden/Harris) are aligned "with Iran and China"

this has really got me worried, muchacho!

You can thank your lucky stars your state of Arizona remains bravely Democratic Socialist:

See "8th Lawsuit Fails to Overturn Presidential Voting in Arizona"
Dec 15, at http://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/arizona/articles/2020-12-15/8th-suit-over-presidential-election-results-in-arizona-fails

"A judge dismissed another lawsuit that sought to decertify Democratic President-elect Joe Biden’s win in Arizona, marking the eighth failed case that challenged the election results in the state."

I'za worried about y'all Arizonan Chinese I-ran commies!

First, no incumbent who has received 75 percent of the total primary vote has lost re-election. Second, President Trump received 94 percent of the primary vote, which is the fourth highest of all time (higher than Dwight Eisenhower, Nixon, Clinton, or Obama). In fact, Trump is only one of five incumbents since 1912 to receive more than 90 percent of the primary vote.

Third, Trump set a record for most primary votes received by an incumbent when more than 18 million people turned out for him in 2020 (the previous record, held by Bill Clinton, was half that number). For Biden to prevail in the general election, despite Trump’s historic support in the primaries, turns a century’s worth of prior election data on its head.

Obama - received 69,000,000 from 873 Counties
Biden - received 81,000,000 from 477 Counties
Trump - received 74,000,000 from 2,497 Counties.

Trump is more represented throughout America by the number of Counties
Biden gained his votes from Metropolitain high turnout

Josephus,

Biden got more votes than Trump.

So what's your point ? That winning a bigger number of piss-ant counties should count more than winning votes ?

At that rate, Betoota would count on the same level as Mt Druitt or Sunshine ?

Joe

In Georgia in two counties 4,000 persons have moved within the State and not changed their postal address so received two postal ballots, and this was sanctioned by District Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner whose sister was a candidate for the Democrat Party. The Republican Party has Identified 360,000 names in Georgia who are not properly registered, because unverified changes of address.

Josephus

So it should be an easy matter to present those 360,000 votes before the Supreme Court, three out of the nine members of which Trumpf appointed.

Piece of cake !

Joe

Joe Biden is a one year president. Kamila Harris is the President Elect in Joe's eyes.
http://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6219324106001?fbclid=IwAR0W3o6idoCQ4kKOF-otDy7dOaHRd1veufmUvHYElhPC1ske4eOvTygAvqo

Hi Josephus,

Yes, won't that be fantastic ?! A woman, an American woman, a person of mixed 'race' or ancestry, and not only Black but Asian as well ?! Wonderful !

And then, in 2024, she will be legally entitled to run for two terms as President, until 2032. I hope I live long enough to see who might come next :)

So you racist bastards can kiss the next decade good-bye. And forever after that.

Joe