BP,

OK. You disagree on Costello, so what about addressing the subject.

Aidan,

You ask so many questions. You should get yourself into the Q&A audience.

"Do you mean what state? Or what subsector? Or something else?"

This question shows that you can't rebut me. Why not tell me where you think the jobs ARE.

"They haven't gone to the 35 plus year-olds.
How do you know that? Or are you just guessing?"

Observation of the job market. The time older people remain out of work. The ones who never work again.

"All that sort of work has gone to countries building coal plants like there is no tomorrow.
Countries? China and which other?"

Well, just China, if that's better for you. But, it doesn't matter. The jobs have left Australia.

That covers your questions to me. But I don't know why I bother as I'm probably an "idiot" in your eyes, just like anyone else you don't agree with. I note also your comment about "videos and rants" which don't fit in with your extremist ideology - or perhaps that should be your idiotic ideology.

Oops. I overlooked your first question. Answer, I looked it up. Obviously a source that wouldn't meet with your approval

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Dear ttbn,

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That was part of the subject "Loss Of Trust In The Political System" as you expressed it in the very first paragraph of your opening post :

« I am among the first to say that ex-politicians should stay that way and keep quiet. There are sometimes exceptions for past politicians who actually achieved something during their time in office, and who no longer have to tow a party line. Two such are one-time Deputy Prime Minister and Leader of the National Party, John Alexander, and capable Treasurer, Peter Costello »

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BP,

I think that you are being deliberately obtuse. The subject was the 'The Loss of Trust in The Political System', not two ex politicians who raised the subject, and who were referred to by me to indicate that it wasn't just my opinion. It's really not worthwhile these days starting a thread just for some posters to play silly buggers in a vain effort to make themselves look clever. OLO is getting to be like a primary school playground

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Dear ttbn,

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I’m sorry if I seem “obtuse” but I must say I’m surprised to learn that you had written something in the first paragraph of the introductory post to the thread you initiated that had nothing to do with the subject you wanted us to debate.

I take comfort in the fact that I’m not the only one who made that mistake. I see that a lot of the debate is about the “one-time Deputy Prime Minister and Leader of the National Party, John Anderson (alias Alexander)” who was the other past politician you mentioned in your first paragraph.

I see that Aiden also picked up on Peter Costello from your first paragraph.

So that makes yourself, myself, Aiden, loudmouth2, Bazz, and Paul1405 who all commented on one of the two examples of past politicians you mentioned in your first paragraph. There are not many posts about anything else.

At least I’m in good company but I’ll try to do better next time, ttbn. Promise.

As somebody wisely said on another thread : “words are important”.

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ttbn,
You seriously think my not wanting to waste time responding to your ambiguous questions with answers other than the ones you were after proves I can't rebut you? You've failed to notice the elephant in the room:
Whether your figures came from a ten year old equivalent of the document I linked to, or an anti renewables propaganda video, or your own backside, the fact remains that the market share of renewables is double what you thought it was. You saw renewables as a failure based on the false premise that investment in them was having no effect on market share. I've not merely rebutted you, I've refuted your main argument!

But getting back to those more trivial questions of yours, I'd expect most of the jobs to be in rooftop solar panel installation, and therefore located in the parts of Australia where the buildings are. There would also be lots of jobs in construction where the new wind and solar farms are, plus a few jobs in operations, maintenance and cleaning for the existing ones.

As for Australia's loss of manufacturing work (beyond the low value work that we were going to lose anyway no matter what happened) high electricity costs were a factor in their departure, but the unsustainably high Aussie dollar was a much bigger factor.

As for your observations of the job market, the trend is well known but there are still many people who go against it. Also I refer you back to my earlier comment about economic policy.