I think if Kevin Rudd wants to see strippers and become 'snotty" as was reported,let him be.
But if he wants me to vote for him, he will have to improve his honesty.
His latest excuse was that the very next day he phoned long suffering feminist Mrs T Rudd and told her "I've been a bit of a goose again,Mrs T. Rudd,Bussinesswoman answered,"not again what did you do this time Kevin,"Well you know,I could not say no when I was asked if I wanted to visit a New York brothel the one with bedrooms upstrairs where the girls you pick of the lap dancing floor do a private show."Mrs T. Rudd,"well youve really had it with me I'll be in England when you return so don't expect any favours from me."
"Oh,darling you will stand up for me if the media get a wind of what a goose I've been Kevin answered.

Fletcher, if part of the reason for your dislike of the current govt. is because of their standards then this sort of conduct from our next PM hardly sets a good example, does it? Over consumption of alcohol is accepted as a significant mental and physical health problem; and more than the deed, the justification is the thing that rankles with me.
Your sources, the 'poll', and the Leak interview are not proof of Downers sexual persuasion. The first is a joke, and the interview, at least in transcipt, implies nothing to back your innuedo.
Mate, with posts like this one, maybe the adage 'people get the govt. they deserve', is more than appropriate to you right now.

People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming,

The accusations were in relation to some sort of corruption, not cruelty.

By the way, have you seen the latest bit of legislation and how it may affect the agenda of your group? (Trade Practices Amendment (Small Business Protection) Bill 2007 )

http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/free-speech-not-while-were-on-sheeps-back/2007/08/22/1187462353847.html

Careful what you say or you may end up in court.

Wobbles
Cruelty and corruption go hand in hand but thanks.

Most groups are used to the thuggery of both Governments as they struggle to keep the public in the dark about Australian Governments discraceful lack of Animal welfare concerns.

This of course compliments they are also looking at turning Australia into a Islamic Ritual Culture country.


I have been tied up in a court case say no I had not seen it.

The publicity alone to charge somebody for telling the truth will be seen as a huge win for people who care about animals.

Peter Costello should have gone a bit further and made the law that when the public make a donation to animals it goes to the animals to improve conditions it goes straight into the piggeries to enlarge cages or better still into a free range farmer who does do the right thing so they can expand.

This would include the RSPCA. Speaking of letters I have one from the head of the Church claiming they are "not allowed" to help animals because- "Peter Costello wont let them."

It is with Free Range farmers our future lies and there is nothing wrong with advertsing and promoting a good Free Range cruelty free farmers.
I hope this new law will serve as a first step to "forcing animal groups to get behind good farmers' to be honest Wobbles because thats something we have pushed for a long time.

I dont hear labours Rudd ?

Seaking of Downer-

So I guess this means that Downer and Vaile will Sue the Queen now because according to her and Prince Charles letters they are responsible for the cruel live trade?

Her words not mine

Funny As- And! in writing too.

Here is some interesting information about Downers handling of Australias conerns_ [ Oh printed by the media so sorry to dissapoint you Alex.
One of Murdocks too the large live animals exporter along with Packers.

http://www.livexports.com/cowgun.html

http://www.livexports.com/queen.html

Here is one from Australian Muslim leaders. At least their defence can be racism.>

http://www.livexports.com/afic.pdf
Thanks Wobbles

People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming,

I may not agree with you on everything you have to say but I do believe that you should have the right to say it in a free society.

Strange how quietly this one slipped by, considering the potential impact it may have on everybody.

I see you have started a new topic based on this development.

Good luck in - and my best wishes for - your ongoing struggle.

Wobbles
Sorry I did not see you post earlier. I would like to thank you for bring this to our attention. You should pop in to the new thread Wobbles.
I was sus at the last meeting with AFIC but I had no idea they had gone this far nehind our backs.
I will keep an eye out for your threads and see if we really are so different.
I just believe in a far go which is the real Australian way.
Yes this WILL be used in any way ACCC are told to use it.
Now just before I go I think its time we replaced ACCC with an Inderpendant office too.
Again thanks from the crew at PALE